Which do you prefer while running Tren

[Eazy20]

Keep test high? Or low and let the tren do the grunt work? What exactly are the pluses and minuses of both? When I ran tren I kept my test doses high because it's what I've always heard, but I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind keeping test dosages low.

[Far from massive]

My thoughts are as long as you keep the test dose adequate to maintian good test levels then its fine to boost the Tren dosage to do the "grunt work". Also if you are someone who has problems with test converting to estro then by keeping the test and resultant estro levels in check you are much less likely to have prolactins sides as they occur much easier when estro climbs.

[Matt]

I run the tren at the higher dose, with me i like to let the the tren do the work and i get less side this way.....

[deeznutts]

I run the tren at the higher dose, with me i like to let the the tren do the work and i get less side this way.....

Is that because you get more sides from test than you do tren or does the combo of the two increase your chances of sides? Just wondering if that is general trend or something specifically related to you?

[songdog]

Higher tren low test sides seem better.

[dec11]

i ran test at 250mg with 350mg tren a with my recent 8wk blast, did ok on it. ive raised my test to 650mgs pw after discontinuing the tren and im gaining great size quickly.

worth noting that the tren flared gyno on me badly even at the low test dose, went on adex and it soon buggered off

[Matt]

Is that because you get more sides from test than you do tren or does the combo of the two increase your chances of sides? Just wondering if that is general trend or something specifically related to you?

The combo increases the sides for me but hell tren has more sides than any other bro....

[deeznutts]

The combo increases the sides for me but hell tren has more sides than any other bro....

Righto... Every cycle I ran I kept test higher that the all other compounds.... So Im just getting ready to run test 700wk, tren 600wk, win 50ed.... Everyone I know has kept test higher. So this is intriguing and now I have a lil more homework to do...

thx

[MR10X]

Tren is more androgenic than test mg for mg,you shouldnt need as much test with tren.

[gixxerboy1]

test and tren is my fav cycle. I run more tren then test

[deeznutts]

You guys are right, I was think more along the line of libido... I used a lot of deca before so i kept test high to keep the dreaded deca dick away. Tren seems to be similar to deca in that regard so figured run test higher. Thx for the info... E20-didnt mean to jack your thread bro.

[feeldapump89]

hmm im on my first go with tren im running test at 600mgs and tren at 500mgs. Any suggestions on how to run it being your first time using the compound?

[t-gunz]

low test and higher tren.

i just use test and hcg to keep theboys happy and let tren TRANSFORM lol

[feeldapump89]

Ok I have only injected once so I may adjust this to tren 600 test 500 any objections lol?

[t-gunz]

Ok I have only injected once so I may adjust this to tren 600 test 500 any objections lol?

well that would work. but depends on your cycle history.

[gixxerboy1]

Ok I have only injected once so I may adjust this to tren 600 test 500 any objections lol?

thats fine to do

[feeldapump89]

well that would work. but depends on your cycle history.

I have done 4 cycles in the past mainly consisting of test e deca dbol adrol. I feel ready to take the next step up to this amazing compound but the proper dose for first use making sure i fully utilize it is what im stuck on. Any opinions? what did you guys run your first time using tren?

[t-gunz]

if you havent used tren then i suggest dont use 600mg. that high mate.

i used 250mg a week for my first run and to be honest it was more than enough to see good results.

although it is up to you what you feel comfortable running

[feeldapump89]

how much test were you running alongside that 250mg of tren?

[dec11]

Ok I have only injected once so I may adjust this to tren 600 test 500 any objections lol?

well to be honest if i ever run tren again i'll do the test at 500mgs at least, my reckoning was id keep test low (250mgs) to avoid estro sides, i got them anyway so there ya go, i might as well of benefited from the usual test dose.

btw my 1st and second runs on tren were 350mgs and it was plenty to get results and sides were bearable

[feeldapump89]

pretty much im set on running atleast 500mgs of tren e. But i also dont want to run test below 500mgs so in term go for 600mgs tren 500mgs test...

[feeldapump89]

well to be honest if i ever run tren again i'll do the test at 500mgs at least, my reckoning was id keep test low (250mgs) to avoid estro sides, i got them anyway so there ya go, i might as well of benefited from the usual test dose

Yea im totally on the same boat i aint ****ing around i want full potential hah.

[dec11]

Yea im totally on the same boat i aint ****ing around i want full potential hah.

just have adex or masin on hand, id bloods done half way through and estro was x5 what it should have been, id been on 250mg test for 16mths at that stage and had no estro probs, so just shows that tren can flare it

[feeldapump89]

scary business how much tren were you running?

[dec11]

scary business how much tren were you running?

just 350mg this time, had got off the block at 525mgs but was intensely sweating my balls off so i went down to 350mg and still pretty much sweated them off lol. i went on .5mg adex 3wks ago and gyno was gone within 7days. if you're gyno prone start an ai from the get go

[Gi812Many]

Im running 500mgs of Test E and 500mgs of Tren E....Im doing fine, not suffering hardly any side effects other than mild sweating at night. Although my injection spots where I shoot the Tren tend to be more swolling and itchy? My Gyno has started though, all the tissue they were unable to remove I feel has enlarged. Ive upped my dosage of 12.5 mgs of aromasin to 16mgs. Going to see if that does anything

[feeldapump89]

Agh well i have to inject this morning this is really messing with my head. I am not very prone to gyno just get slightly sensitive puffy nips sometimes so im not too concerned about that. I think im going to go with 600mgs tren 500mgs test thou i could kick it down to an even 500mgs for both such as you Gi812Many f*ck i cant make my mind up! I really wanna let this tren do its thing. For the record my original first dose was 480mgs Tren E and 600mg Test E

[MR10X]

600mg of tren E a week is not to much,i have done 500mg of tren A a week and 600mg of test E a week and had good results.

[Str8Jakked]

well to be honest if i ever run tren again i'll do the test at 500mgs at least, my reckoning was id keep test low (250mgs) to avoid estro sides, i got them anyway so there ya go, i might as well of benefited from the usual test dose.

There you go... I think that a lot of people run their Test higher also because it has been preached for so long on the net that you have to- I really don't think that a lot of people have tried it the other way around.

Running Tren at either 400mg or even 600mg a week and using only 200mg-250mg of Test keeps the dick working and should keep you feeling fine but I personally prefer to keep Test high as well- I think it's a mental thing and besides, I love my Test.

[feeldapump89]

Ive decided to run them both equally at 500mgs for my first run. My winter bulk will consist of a higher tren dose once i fully understand what this stuff is all about hah.

[Hazard]

Depends on my goals......

If i'm blasting/crusing...... then i'll keep my tren higher and my test around 250mg's. Then increase test after the tren is done. If i'm just running a 12 week bulker - i'll keep my test just as high as tren to maximize gains.

~Haz~

[feeldapump89]

What do you mean by blasting/cruising haz?

[dec11]

Im doin what haz mentioned and I must say im getn an almighty kick outa the test post tren!

[dec11]

Cruise and blast is staying on low test dose between cycles and then raising it up or adding compounds for a cycle duration

[feeldapump89]

ok so say i wanted to go into a cruise blast after my planned cycle what would i do? Is this like a bridging type cycle?

[Hazard]

ok so say i wanted to go into a cruise blast after my planned cycle what would i do? Is this like a bridging type cycle?

I'l give you an example - i'm not recommending it for anyone without a lot of experience. Also.... don't stay "on" year round..... I do take time off and run aggressive pct's but every now and then I experiment with ideas and see how I respond.

weeks 1-12 Tren 600mg's/wk
weeks 1-12 Test 250mg's/wk

weeks 13-16 Dbol 50mg/day
weeks 13- 24 Test 750mg's (or w/e dosage you use)

weeks 24-27 Test 200mg's/wk

and you can continue however long you want. Instead of hitting pct - you would drop your test down to near normal ranges. You effectively minimize your gain losses however..... if you dont want to be permanantly on TRT you may not want to consider this option. Your recovery may differ form mine.

~Haz~

[feeldapump89]

Damn eh I guess that makes sense but coming up near weeks 20+ id imagine your body becomes pretty accustomed to elevated test levels...

[Hazard]

Damn eh I guess that makes sense but coming up near weeks 20+ id imagine your body becomes pretty accustomed to elevated test levels...

A true cruise and blast looks like this:

1-8 Test 750mgs

9-12 Test 200mgs

13-20 Test 750mgs

^^^^ something to that effect..... different people have different methods, dosages, times frames, etc.....

Ideally you would cut the test dosage between cycles so you give your body time to adjust to the lower levels again. The cycle listed in my other post was more of a long bulker/cruise - low test levels with high tren. Then cut the tren and boost the test..... it's a different compound with different side effects.

~Haz~