HCG/A-dex necessary on first cycle?

**Jman123** · 08-03-2011, 05:49 AM

26 yrs old
6'3"
213 lbs
12% bf

I have all my gear on hand necessary for my first cycle (test e, dbol , nolva, clomid). I couldn't get hcg or a-dex from my source because they didn't have it. Basically, I'm considering running the cycle without it and just using 10 mg nolva eod if estrogen issues arise. I've found the hcg and a-dex from another source, but I can't really spare the extra expense and time right now. So, can I run the cycle as is with few to no issues? Or will the hcg/a-dex make that big of a difference?

**Vullfromsc** · 08-03-2011, 05:58 AM

you should be completely fine with what you have, hCG is definitely nice for coming off easier though.. and nolvadex is ok for on cycle estrogen control. of course, aromasin or arimidex is better.. but you should be ok, especially since this cycle isn't very suppressive or highly dosed (im assuming)

**vtach12** · 08-03-2011, 07:35 AM

Why don't you just get some Dex from one of our sponsors? It not that expensive. Also what is your dose for this cycle, that will make a difference.

**Lemonada8** · 08-03-2011, 09:54 AM

Hcg is a must imo. It makes recovery alot easier and protects ur testes from dehydrating the intratestitcular volume to low. I use nolva for estro protection in my test prop cycles and I'm fine with it, however with test e there is more aromatization so an ai is usually needed to deal with erse.

**pointblank** · 08-03-2011, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

Hcg is a must imo. It makes recovery alot easier and protects ur testes from dehydrating the intratestitcular volume to low. I use nolva for estro protection in my test prop cycles and I'm fine with it, however with test e there is more aromatization so an ai is usually needed to deal with erse.

Should I run HCG throughout my cycle or use it as a bridge between the cycle and PCT?

**Nooomoto** · 08-03-2011, 10:34 AM

I'd lose the dbol for the first cycle, hold onto it for your second and just run test to see how things go. I think the HCG and adex is overkill for your PCT, you should be good to go with the nolva and clomid. IMO HCG is powerful and should not be taken lightly. There is evidence to show use of HCG during a cycle can help speed up and contribute to a more complete recovery, but since this is your first cycle and you SHOULD only be running one compound, it is not needed. Save it for when you become more advance and are running multiple compound cycles.

**jtuner77** · 08-03-2011, 10:44 AM

If you cant afford it, wait till you can. HCG and A-dex is a must IMO. Seen to many people cheapen out and pay for it in the long run.

**jtuner77** · 08-03-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Nooomoto

I'd lose the dbol for the first cycle, hold onto it for your second and just run test to see how things go. I think the HCG and adex is overkill for your PCT, you should be good to go with the nolva and clomid. IMO HCG is powerful and should not be taken lightly. There is evidence to show use of HCG during a cycle can help speed up and contribute to a more complete recovery, but since this is your first cycle and you SHOULD only be running one compound, it is not needed. Save it for when you become more advance and are running multiple compound cycles.

I agree with dropping the Dbol but the rest I dont recommend. Get the HCG and Adex!

**Jman123** · 08-03-2011, 05:50 PM

Was going to run the dbol for 30 days at 40 or 50 mg/day and test e at 500-600 mg/wk for 12 weeks. Being my first cycle, I think I can bounce back fine with the nolva and clomid. Will definitely be using hcg and adex on future cycles, though.