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    First Test E/Winny Cycle - Couple Questions

    I am all set to start my first Test E/Winny cycle. 10 weeks on Test E and then Winny from week 7 to week 12 (two weeks after Test E ends).

    My original plan was to do 500mg/week of Test E split into two doses shot Monday and Thursday. Winny will be the standard 50mg ED beginning week 7.

    Here are my questions:

    My supplier in my gym thinks I only need to do 250mg of the Test E. He says that due to me having a good build already (5'10", 195, 10% BF), doing 500mg will make me "too big" and that I risk looking like a "typical South Florida d-bag meathead." While I don't want to blow up like Ronnie Coleman, I think I could use about 15lbs more mass. Would you guys recommend 250mg or 500mg weekly?

    Also, I have access to both Nolva and Arimidex. My plan was to do the Arimidex right off the bat at .25mg ED (or EOD if I only do the 250mg Test E). Should I also run the Nolva at 10mg ED or just keep it on hand?

    I've been lurking here for months and have enjoyed learning from everyone. I figured it was time for me to sign up and start contributing. Happy lifting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA FLEX View Post
    doing 500mg will make me "too big" and that I risk looking like a "typical South Florida d-bag meathead." While I don't want to blow up like Ronnie Coleman!
    Ok dude, so first, A CYLCE OF TEST WILL NOT MAKE U ANYWHERE NEAR RONNIE COLEMAN....
    now that thats outta the way =D i kinda like being a SoFla "meathead" just dont be a douche =P
    third Im 5'11 210lb at 7% and even with a cycle of cyp i would not consider myself in ANYWAY "Big"

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    do you have a pct planned? what are you goals? are you wanting to bulk or cut? test will give you the muscle mass and winny is better for a cutting cycle. it's usually one way or the other. if you wanna gain muscle, you'll have to eat to gain muscle while using test or any other time for that matter. it's tough to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. usually one is sacrificed.

    i would run 500mg of test e per week. i dont think 250mg a week will get you to the 15lbs you want. drop the winny. run only one compound for your first cycle to see how your body will react. if you run 2 compounds and start having sides, you won't know which one is causing them.

    adex can be run during your cycle to prevent gyno. .25mg e3d. keep the nolva for your pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil_Doc View Post
    Ok dude, so first, A CYLCE OF TEST WILL NOT MAKE U ANYWHERE NEAR RONNIE COLEMAN....
    now that thats outta the way =D i kinda like being a SoFla "meathead" just dont be a douche =P
    third Im 5'11 210lb at 7% and even with a cycle of cyp i would not consider myself in ANYWAY "Big"
    i'm 5'11 and 213 at 16% and i definately don't consider myself big

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    I agree with dropping the winny, youll lose sufficient water during PCT, as IC will see, keep with the bulk, kickstart with dbol first 4-6 weeks at 45 mg ED if u wish

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    Defineatly run the 500mg a week, you might regret wasting a cylce on only 250mg. I dont think you should run an AI or SERM during unless you know your gyno sensitive, waste of money and posibly gains. Winny not a bad idea, I think people on this board are on the conservative side for first timers especially if your like most of us and only plan on running cycles once a year or so.

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    Thanks for the responses, everyone.

    I have Clomid and Nolva set aside for PCT. The reason I chose a Test-E/Winny combo for my first cycle is that I am somewhat lean already (certainly not shredded) and I wanted to gain 10-15lbs mass with the test then harden up/dry out my gains with the Winny.

    Sounds like the consensus is 500mg/week. Can someone elaborate more on why someone would recommend not running an AI or SERM at all, especially at the higher test dose? I was planning on running both at low doses, 0.25mg ED and 10mg ED respectively. I would love to hear more opinions on this.

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    Last edited by lc1213; 08-05-2011 at 05:38 AM. Reason: double post

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    you can run an AI if you feel the need too. if you already have low estrogen levels, running an AI during your cycle might drop them too low or if you don't run it and you are gyno prone you'll get man boobs. your body needs estrogen to function. it has to be a good balance. having your estrogen too low or too high can affect you in a negative way. you can get blood work done to determine what your estrogen levels are prior to a cycle. this will give you an indication if you will need to run an AI or SERM with your cycle.

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    Thanks for the clarification. My baseline E2 is around 24. Not high but not crazy low.

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