1st cycle, Dbol/test e, your thoughts?

**Joelski87** · 08-06-2011, 10:50 PM

Hey guys, first post

So end of october I'm going to do my first injectable cycle. About six months ago I did an epistane cycle, went really well.

History, 24 years old, 2 and a half years of weight lifting. Currently at 95 kgs about 20ish bf percentage.

So the cycle,

1-12 weeks Arimidex @ ???
*im not sure on dosages

1-10 weeks test e @ 500mg (250mg e4d)
1-4 weeks dbol @ 40mg ed
8-12 weeks epistane @ 40mg ed

week 13 start PCT

40, 40, 20, 20mg nolvadex
*i also want to run Clomid but im not 100% on dosages... Some people.run 100,75,50,20?

as for diet and weights program I haven written it up yet.

Any advice would be appreciated!

**Joelski87** · 08-08-2011, 06:57 PM

Nothing?

**cb714** · 08-08-2011, 07:47 PM

Your body fat is too high and it will only get higher with dbol . You need to lose weight before you do anything. You shouldn't do dbol, much less being your first cycle. Get rid of the pro hormones too, no need for it. Test alone is plenty for your first cycle but only when you're ready and have your diet in check.

**Iamnewtothis** · 08-08-2011, 08:46 PM

Hey guys I am totally NEW! NEW NEW! I also am thinking of doing a Dbol only cycle as not really knowing where to locate other gear....I am 204 lbs 12%-14% BF I have been lifting for about 2 years I want MORE! lol so ya thanks in advance...

**songdog** · 08-08-2011, 08:54 PM

Before you do anything do some research.Forget wat the guys at the gym say or your friends say.But you do need to bring your bf down first.

**Joelski87** · 08-08-2011, 09:34 PM

What would you recommend my bf being at before starting the cycle?

Cheers

**Joelski87** · 08-09-2011, 07:28 PM

Oh I see... My bf % was higher before I did my cycle of epistane.

I haven't got any mates that have used it so im unsure.

I was going to run an AI to help with sides also.

What were you looking at running josh?

**gjames2012** · 08-11-2011, 06:50 PM

body fat should be no more than 12-23 imo and really should honestly be in single digits because you may go up to 5 percent more so if your at 20 your asking for bloat and blood pressure problems. you need to diet and cut down fat first trust me. besides what good are 20 inch arms and a huge chest when you cant see them because they are under 25 percent body fat anyways. why make it harder and have to cut 25 percent fat and lose most of cycle gains when cutting muscle is always sacraficed