Tbol/Dbol stack for kickstart of Test/Tren cycle.

[MuttonChop]

I will be starting a low dose Tren/Test cycle soon, both long esters. I know that the main cause of gyno from Tren is because of estrogen, and that Tren by itself, is not the cause.

Therefore, I am afraid to kick start with Dbol alone because of its high estrogen conversion. I don't like taking Nolva for estro control because of its many sides (can't find the well documented study but will link it soon). I don't want to spend too much money on AIs, combined with the fact that they cause too high of a drop in estro levels (mainly because my supplier can't get these tiny tiny pills in a lower dose; and before you ask, crushing them makes it so much more inaccurate due to residue left over on the material and also a pain in the ass).

Hence, I am planning to do a Tbol/Dbol stack. I know that an Adrol/Dbol stack is better than either of them in high doses, so I am hoping I will get best of both worlds. I am thinking of it as a Test/EQ cycle, with the Tbol being the EQ of course.

Would this effectively shift me towards a higher muscle building ratio without the estro.

If I wasn't doing Tren, I would have just gone for 30-40mg Dbol.

Thanks.

[gixxerboy1]

I will be starting a low dose Tren/Test cycle soon, both long esters. I know that the main cause of gyno from Tren is because of estrogen, and that Tren by itself, is not the cause.



Hence, I am planning to do a Tbol/Dbol stack. I know that an Adrol/Dbol stack is better than either of them in high doses, so I am hoping I will get best of both worlds. I am thinking of it as a Test/EQ cycle, with the Tbol being the EQ of course.
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why do you have to stack the "kickstart" tbol/dbol or adrol/dbol? Why not just pick one?
Tbol being eq of course. What does that mean?

Buy you ai's from ar-r banner up top and you can dose any way you like.
The studies on nolva's side effects are for long term use. Any drug has side effects. Just read read the ones on the chemicals in your cycle.

[MuttonChop]

Nolva and Tren don't go together. I am pretty sure you know that Gix.

As for referring to Tbol being equivalent to EQ, my point was that I don't want to do straight up Dbol. Why do people run 500mg Test and 500mg Deca instead of 1000mg Test, the latter of which is the better mass builder? Its cuz they want the best of both worlds.

I don't want to take 50mg Dbol, but rather 20mg Dbol and 30mg Tbol. Wouldn't you say the latter is a better combo for less estrogen but almost the same gains?