methylated sten

**AstheticKing** · 08-24-2011, 09:55 PM

found a product that is a designer hormone called ultradrol sold as a prohormone supplement, the company claims its methyl sten, if im not mistaken thats a injecteble primo so wtf. what results would i expect from this??

2,17α-dimethyl-5α-androsta-1-en-17β-ol-3-one

im just a beginner and a novice at this but it only looks like dimethylated reduced masteron or dht right?

**AstheticKing** · 08-24-2011, 09:56 PM

basically same as superdrol?? a retarded ass hormone as in gains and sides are huge at recomended dosages (ive used dmz and it was ok but 25mg winny is better)

**Bonaparte** · 08-24-2011, 10:15 PM

That's just superdrol (methyl-masteron ).
Methyl-sten is what was in the original Mass Tabs.

And injectable primo is Methenolone Enanthate

**Sector** · 08-25-2011, 02:03 AM

Not sure why people knock Prohormones. MG for MG I found Epistane to be stronger then Anavar not to mention its a legit bulking oral.

Ill probly kickstart my next cycle with Ultradrol pending bloodwork from some of the current loggers. The fact that it doesnt effect estrogen nor prolactin is in and of itself very appealing for the current results its showing users.

**Ashop** · 08-25-2011, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Not sure why people knock Prohormones. MG for MG I found Epistane to be stronger then Anavar not to mention its a legit bulking oral.

Ill probly kickstart my next cycle with Ultradrol pending bloodwork from some of the current loggers. The fact that it doesnt effect estrogen nor prolactin is in and of itself very appealing for the current results its showing users.

Some of them do get a bad rap but speaking honestly there were a few good ones.
They really were not prohormones though,,,just designer oral steroids . M1T, SUPERDROL, PPLEX, SPAWN
just to name a few were pretty decent.

**gixxerboy1** · 08-25-2011, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Not sure why people knock Prohormones. MG for MG I found Epistane to be stronger then Anavar not to mention its a legit bulking oral.

Ill probly kickstart my next cycle with Ultradrol pending bloodwork from some of the current loggers. The fact that it doesnt effect estrogen nor prolactin is in and of itself very appealing for the current results its showing users.

never heard of epistane for bulking.

I'm trying it right now and would never use it again.

**AstheticKing** · 08-25-2011, 01:25 PM

yeah i know primo is methenolone but i meant to ask about the n0omeclature and the exact or close to exact effects profile i could derive from its structure

**AstheticKing** · 08-25-2011, 01:26 PM

ultradrol couldnt be superdrol cuz the mg is too low right?

**guitario** · 08-25-2011, 01:50 PM

Wait Superdrol is oral Masteron or did i get that wrong? I've always wondered what was in that as i thought it was a good bulking steroid but Masteron isn't..

**Bonaparte** · 08-25-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by guitario

Wait Superdrol is oral Masteron or did i get that wrong? I've always wondered what was in that as i thought it was a good bulking steroid but Masteron isn't..

Correct. Adding a 17aa changes a compound dramatically. Look at Dbol vs EQ.

**Bonaparte** · 08-25-2011, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by AstheticKing

yeah i know primo is methenolone but i meant to ask about the n0omeclature and the exact or close to exact effects profile i could derive from its structure

That is definitely methasteron's nomenclature.
It is DHT with methyl groups are at the 2 and 17 positions. The 2-methyl separates mast from DHT, and the 17-methyl makes it superdrol.

Methenolone would just have a 1-methyl group and a 2-3 double bond (which separates boldenone and its derivatives from test).

**AstheticKing** · 08-27-2011, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

That is definitely methasteron's nomenclature.
It is DHT with methyl groups are at the 2 and 17 positions. The 2-methyl separates mast from DHT, and the 17-methyl makes it superdrol.

Methenolone would just have a 1-methyl group and a 2-3 double bond (which separates boldenone and its derivatives from test).

thanks, i almost bought ultradrol instead of superdrol, im going to probly drop 5mg superdrol into a 75-100mg clostebol prohormone cycle called promagna (4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Andro-4-Ene-3,17b-Diol) while i deploy soon, thats the closest i can get to TEST basing without test using legal hormones right? or maybe formestane is closer?

**Bonaparte** · 08-27-2011, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by AstheticKing

thanks, i almost bought ultradrol instead of superdrol, im going to probly drop 5mg superdrol into a 75-100mg clostebol prohormone cycle called promagna (4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Andro-4-Ene-3,17b-Diol) while i deploy soon, thats the closest i can get to TEST basing without test using legal hormones right? or maybe formestane is closer?

No, I'd use Primordial's Andromass, as that actually converts to test. But its a bit pricy...

**AstheticKing** · 08-27-2011, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

No, I'd use Primordial's Andromass, as that actually converts to test. But its a bit pricy...

really i thought that was glorified dhea, u pinky promise it converts to test at least like the old days andro ??

**Bonaparte** · 08-27-2011, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by AstheticKing

really i thought that was glorified dhea, u pinky promise it converts to test at least like the old days andro ??

Well, it is. But DHEA converts to test in 2 steps, so its just a matter of dosing and bioavailability (which they put a lot of work into).
I can't make any promises, since I have never used a PH, but it seems legit on paper.

**AstheticKing** · 08-28-2011, 06:39 AM

i will look into it further

**AstheticKing** · 08-28-2011, 09:27 PM

bump any one using it?

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-28-2011, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

No, I'd use Primordial's Andromass, as that actually converts to test. But its a bit pricy...

Huh - I consider that crap overpriced - overhyped - BS marketed - dhea metabolite garbage. Not to metion the undesireable effects of the cyp inhibiton the delivery sytem causes (ie - ast/alt values throught the roof / inabitiy to metabolize hormones like estrogen , progesterone , cortisol ) Also keep in mind the 2 opportunities to aromatize to estrogen as well as 2 opportunites to 5 alpha reduce. How about the misleading marketin using AA rateing to compare to 428mgs test - what a fvcking joke.

All in all I think its garbage.......

**Bonaparte** · 08-28-2011, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Huh - I consider that crap overpriced - overhyped - BS marketed - dhea metabolite garbage. Not to metion the undesireable effects of the cyp inhibiton the delivery sytem causes (ie - ast/alt values throught the roof / inabitiy to metabolize hormones like estrogen , progesterone , cortisol ) Also keep in mind the 2 opportunities to aromatize to estrogen as well as 2 opportunites to 5 alpha reduce).

All in all I think its garbage.......

I wouldn't use it long-term like with injectable test, but its still his best option for an OTC test base to add to his cycle.

**AstheticKing** · 09-01-2011, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Huh - I consider that crap overpriced - overhyped - BS marketed - dhea metabolite garbage. Not to metion the undesireable effects of the cyp inhibiton the delivery sytem causes (ie - ast/alt values throught the roof / inabitiy to metabolize hormones like estrogen , progesterone , cortisol ) Also keep in mind the 2 opportunities to aromatize to estrogen as well as 2 opportunites to 5 alpha reduce. How about the misleading marketin using AA rateing to compare to 428mgs test - what a fvcking joke.

All in all I think its garbage.......

thats what my insticts are tellin me,plus for half that u can get test400..

on my deployment ill probly use formestane as a base before amass

**Harv** · 10-19-2012, 08:43 AM

Ultradrol was ok. I had to use a lot more than the recomended dosage to get it to work. The Methyl Sten stuff is really good if you get the right brand.