First time cycle please confirm its okay.

[holycow88]

My original plan was to use CYTOMEL and CLENBUTEROL to loose fat im sick of being at 20% body fat. But I have been working out for a few years now and dont want to burn off my gains aswell. Im considering using Winstrol with Nolvadex to stop the fat burners from wasting muscle.
My cycle would be around 6 weeks roughly with 3 week PCT or less if needed.
I would take
CYTOMEL - 50ml ED
CLENBUTEROL - 40ml ED
Winstrol - 50ml ED
Nolvadex - 20ml ED or EOD
Then continue Nolvadex after for 2/3 weeks Same ammount.

So being completely knew to this and not finding this combination anywhere Im really just looking for an experienced person to say if this is safe or a bad idea before i go through with it.
Im not to concered about maxing my gains with the winstrol rather fat loss and preserving but if I get gains it would be a bonus. + i dont want bitch tits
any advice or input would be great thanks.

[jelly]

Change your diet or you'll never keep it off.

[stpete]

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who's ran this "cycle."

My suggestion to you is to get to the Diet Section. That's the healthiest and safest place to start.

Good luck.

[holycow88]

Already have Iv cut carbs and lost around 10 /14 pounds in the past 6 weeks and i'll continue to keep my calories low it's just real hard to get where I want. But as far as the cycle is concerned will this be a good first time cycle? Or should I consider something else?

[holycow88]

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who's ran this "cycle."

My suggestion to you is to get to the Diet Section. That's the healthiest and safest place to start.

Good luck.

So is this just a bad idea for a cycle? I understand its the healthier option but right now I would do anything to ahcieve my goals I just want to find safe aid to help get there XD"

[jelly]

Stats?
Age? Weight? Height?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

The cycle is bad, your knowledge on this subject is bad, your diet is bad, your body is in no way ready for AAS, lots wrong with this picture...

As suggested, head to diet section post up your daily diet and if you are honest with us and yourself I bet we can help you a lot in this area. This is the ONLY place to start.

[holycow88]

Stats?
Age? Weight? Height?

23 years old
204 pounds
6ft
21% body fat
I work out 5 times a week around 5 hours in total.
been lifting for around 3 years
No health problems ect
Um did I miss anything? XD

[holycow88]

The cycle is bad, your knowledge on this subject is bad, your diet is bad, your body is in no way ready for AAS, lots wrong with this picture...

As suggested, head to diet section post up your daily diet and if you are honest with us and yourself I bet we can help you a lot in this area. This is the ONLY place to start.

Can I ask whats bad about the cycle? Cytomel and clen are used togther and Winstrol and nolvadex are used togther but together these would be bad?

[stpete]

Clen is strong enough on it's own, and Winstrol is a steroid,right? And it shouldn't be ran alone. But you heard it was a fat burner, so why not run it right? You need to do a boat load of research on these compounds.

And it's not like you're a fatass. You just need a good diet w/ a good workout routine. Hells bells, you're 23..This is easily attainable if you are dedicated enough.

[jelly]

I don't think anyone on here is going to recommend a cycle to you if you are under 25. There has been numerous medical studies done showing that the human body can still be growing and have brain development until you are 25. In many cases the last few years of brain development and cortex maturing are the most vital in human growth. If you take AAS (roids) when you are only 23, you risk the chance of damaging your brain function as your growing. This could result in permanent damages. I vote for fix your diet first and come back with a better cycle plan after more reading and studying, you will be ready in two years once you get down to 12-15% BF.

Cutting cycles are usually done to tone the body of maybe 2%BF after a heavy bulk cycle. It is not a fat loss program for any joe to pick up. Besides, you claim to have already lost 10-14lbs in the past 6 weeks, then you are already on the right track. Sounds to me like you are just being lazy and want the quick easy path like every young kid who posts on here.

Many cycles put the body under hormonal levels 500% to 1000% greater than natural. I may be slightly off on these figures, but you get the jist. Do you think this is good while you are growing?

[redz]

Sounds like you are looking for the easy road and sorry to tell you there isn`t one. Hard work, a good diet and dedication are the answer.

[holycow88]

Clen is strong enough on it's own, and Winstrol is a steroid,right? And it shouldn't be ran alone. But you heard it was a fat burner, so why not run it right? You need to do a boat load of research on these compounds.

And it's not like you're a fatass. You just need a good diet w/ a good workout routine. Hells bells, you're 23..This is easily attainable if you are dedicated enough.

Well I knew winstroll was a steroid, its just i planned to take it to conter the muscle waste which clen could cause. But i guess I will just stick to dieting if you guys dont recommend it thanks for the help

[werms]

23 years old
204 pounds
6ft
21% body fat
I work out 5 times a week around 5 hours in total.
been lifting for around 3 years
No health problems ect
Um did I miss anything? XD

Not enough Cardio.
If your lifting 5 times a week 1hr per day needs to be set aide for cardio.. Elliptical Stairs ect. That with a clean diet and you will drop 6-8% in 3 months.

[neopup2]

If your going to do this take these guys advice wait and do your reseach,follow a strict diet and when your ready drop all that fat burning crap and start with a beginner cycle like Test -E so you only need to inject twice a week 500mg total and add Winstrol if you still think you need it (which you won't because you will be lean and bulking) My first cycle was awesome and it was 500mg Test-E a week for 12 weeks super clean diet and proper PCT. And I spent hours everyday on here researching and have done many cycles but diet is everything. And I get my Clomid, Letro etc. from Lions they are great.

[euphoric]

Not enough Cardio.
If your lifting 5 times a week 1hr per day needs to be set aide for cardio.. Elliptical Stairs ect. That with a clean diet and you will drop 6-8% in 3 months.

That is an option.
I would differ by recommending just eating better/less to get results he wants. Even though he says hes been lifting three years, and does 5 a week, at 6', 204lbs with 21%BF he doesent have a massive amount of LBM in the first place. Getting his diet on track is the easiest, fastest, and most time saving way to do it. Everyones different though, he may prefer to just start hitting tons of cardio.

[gats0101]

Look in the diet section and read the sample cutting diet, its a good template for a cutting diet. Winstrol and Anavar the cutting steroids will help but nothing drastic, same with Clen and Albuterol. It all helps but you can gain muscle and loose fat on a legit diet.

[songdog]

You would do best to just diet.Hit the diet section post your diet.Doing a cycle now and at your age could mess you up.Being the least getting fatter.YES that can happen easy.