Input on this poor cycle please

[Chizzled]

Below is what my buddy was told to do for a first cycle. This is not BS this is a serious post. He will put what he took below and what he felt through out. He knows now this was a very bad first cycle or any cycle with that said but has some questions. He just finished his pct and is feeling really shitty. Im elling him to go get bw done and see if he did any permanent damage. Also I think he should continue a more aggressive pct with the addition of nolva.

Stats
Height - 5 "7
Weight - 145
Age - 24
Lifting exp - 4 years
Cycle exp - First cycle

week 1-16 test e 500 mg ew
week 1 -4 DBOL 50 MG ed
week 1-10 deca 300 mg ew
week 10-13 anadrol 50mg ed
week 10-20 20 mg nolva ed/ Aromasin 25mg eod
week 12- 16 tren e 300mg ew
week 16-20 test p 100 mg eod
week 16-20 tren a 75 mg eod

Pct -
Clomid 300mg first day/ 100mg ED for 3 weeks

When i started the tren i stopped getting results and started feeling lethargic and had pains in my joints. I started to have insomia and some night sweats/acne also once i started the tren. I didn't get any stronger or make any gains while on the tren? Why do you think I didnt see any effect from the tren?

[Lemonada8]

Well i hope you had enough sense to steer him away from that complex of a cycle.

and that PCT blows.

I hope this isnt another 'friend' thread and it end up really being OP.

If thats a serious post, then wtf are people doing now a days? and where the he** are they gettin their info on how to cycle?

Serious.. wtf!

[Bob segal]

Look i copyied and past your first sentence and last . come out with the truth son....

":Below is what my BUDDY was told to do for a first cycle:"
"When I started the tren i stopped getting results and started feeling lethargic and had pains in my joints. I started to have insomia and some night sweats/acne also once i started the tren . I didn't get any stronger or make any gains while on the tren ? Why do you think I didnt see any effect from the tren" ?

[Livinlean]

Look i copyied and past your first sentence and last . come out with the truth son....

":Below is what my BUDDY was told to do for a first cycle:"
"When I started the tren i stopped getting results and started feeling lethargic and had pains in my joints. I started to have insomia and some night sweats/acne also once i started the tren . I didn't get any stronger or make any gains while on the tren ? Why do you think I didnt see any effect from the tren" ?

If you keep reading the second line he goes on to say more... "Below is what my buddy was told to do for a first cycle . This is not BS this is a serious post. He will put what he took below and what he felt through out."

[Bob segal]

i gotcha! tht it was another" My buddy story"

[Chizzled]

Retards with pointless post

[Bob segal]

sorry bra!

[Bob segal]

i would deff add aromasin with that nolv too. It help me a ton. make sure hes diet is very good, some extra sat fat for help wit natty test production, maybe some vitamin E .
too bad he didnt run hcg during that would of helped alot with this recover prob

[Chizzled]

Do you think he should restart an aggressive pct protocall or just wait and go get bw done? You ran aromasin in your pct?

[Chizzled]

Why do you think that once the tren was added he experienced sides but had no gains?

[Bonaparte]

He had likely already gained all he could in a 16 week timeframe. And his Tren was probably shitty too.

Someone made a killing off your naive buddy.

[dec11]

Retards with pointless post

retard that needs to have a 'buddy' story, more like.

[Chizzled]

Retard that thinks he's always right

[Chizzled]

He had likely already gained all he could in a 16 week timeframe. And his Tren was probably shitty too.

Someone made a killing off your naive buddy.

Lol ya I agree. Any opinion on if he should rerun a pct

[Bonaparte]

Lol ya I agree. Any opinion on if he should rerun a pct

I'd do it. But lower doses and do it for 6 weeks.

[Chizzled]

I'd do it. But lower doses and do it for 6 weeks.

I was thinking -

Clomid 100/50/50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20

[Bonaparte]

Looks good.

[neopup2]

That is an insane first cycle to long to many compounds Tren at the end after 14 weeks of Test he will get no gains just sides. He's only 24 years old. He needs BW and some good advice from a good friend. He'll be ruined before he's 35. First cycle is usually Test-e twice a week about 500mg total a week.That cycle is crazy and why the Tren at the end. 20 weeks is almost half a year of course he feels like crap who wouldn't. He needs to cool it with the mega cycles before he kills himself. Plus if he has a bad reaction to the gear he wouldn't know which one mainly the longer esters because they stay in your system so long like Tren-E GOOD LUCK BRO! YOU'LL NEED IT!

[dec11]

Retard that thinks he's always right

ah, pardon me 'buddy'