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    Question Cycle review needed

    Hey guys,

    Thought I share my upcoming cycle and diet with everyone, would like to hear your opinions and potential changes needed.

    week 1 - 4: dbol 20mg (Had some lying around, figured I use them up)
    week 1 - 10: test e ( 2x 250mcg, pin at night, sun/wed)
    week 4 - 12: primoteston (1 x 250mcg)
    week 7 - 12: test p (2 x 100mcg)
    week 7 - 12: anavar (start off 10mcg and slowly go up to (max) 40mcg)

    PCT:
    Week 11 - 13: 5000iu hcg week
    Week 12 - 14: 2ml ed ketotifen
    week 13 - 16: 35mcg clomid ed

    Stats:
    Age: 29
    Height: 5'6 (yup...im a midget lol)
    Weight: 88kg ~
    bf%: 14%, last checked awhile ago.

    History: Been training for 7 years, completed 2 cycles in the past (test only)

    Workout plan: day on day off, compound movements only. 6-12 rep range. 2-3 min break between each set.

    I train in the mornings, so ill get to the gym between 9:30am - 10am.

    monday: chest/shoulders/tri (dumbbell works outs mainly)
    flat bench x 3 sets
    incline x 3 sets
    fly x 2
    decline x 2
    upright row x3
    milterly press x3
    kick back tri extentions x3 - to failure

    wednesday: legs
    lunges x 4
    squats x 4
    leg press x 4
    seated calfs raises x2 (till failure)

    friday: back/bi
    bend over row x 3
    wide grip pull downs x 3
    close grip pull downs x 3
    dead lifts x 2
    pull up x 3 (till failure)
    hammer curls x 3 (till failure)

    Diet:
    meal 1 breakfast 8:15am:
    125g Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein (30g) , 135g oatmeal, 1 medium banana
    protein 44g/106carbs/8fat

    meal 2, 11:00am:
    PWO shake with water.
    60g protein, 85g carb, 8g (650 calories)

    meal 3: 2pm
    tuna 300g , 125g brown rice, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein
    84g/45g/35g

    meal 4: 5pm
    smoked chicken breast 100g, coleslaw salad (or green veggies / salad) mix 200g, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 30g , 97% fat free mayonnaise
    48g/34g/3g

    meal 5: 8pm
    tuna 300g, 100g green veggies
    72g/7g/6g

    meal 6: 11pm
    2 Scoop Of Whey Protein
    48g/6g/2g

    Snacks: Raw almonds/cashew nuts and protein bar (17g/2g/7g), low fat cottage cheese, sugar free jello. Fat free milk.

    Total daily; protein: 356g
    carbs: 283g
    fats: 62g

    NOTE: Some protein sources will change throughout the cycle from tuna/chicken(boiled,smoked,pan fried, bbq)/red meat/lean turkey.

    My expectation is to gain some good strength and put on a bit of size. Looking for lean mass gains between 5kg - 7kg (15lb) once PCT is over. I think my structure looks pretty reasonable, but would like to know what you all think?

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    Bump bump bump

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    Cycle:
    Way to much Test. for your third cycle. You shouldn't need more than 500mg a week. By the way, I hope you ment mg instead of mcg. Test E and Primoteston are the same thing, just different names. You don't need the Test Prop at the end of the cycle unless you stop the Test E/Primoteston. I would up the Dbol to 40mg ED for first 4 weeks. There is no need to tapper up on the Test or the Anavar . I would keep the Anavar at 40-80mg a day. Anything less or more would be a waste of money.

    PCT:
    You need Nolvadex and more Clomid, or, even better, use Aromasin instead of Clomid. You don't need the Ketotifen. HCG needs to be less a week. You should inject 250-500iu SQ ED. Start at week 12. At week 15 drop the HCG and start the Nolvadex and Clomid/Aromasin and do it for 3-4 weeks.

    Cycle:
    wks 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED (split or spread)
    wks 1-12 Test E 250mg IM every 3.5 days
    wks 8-12 Anavar 50mg ED (split or spread)

    PCT:
    wks 12-14 HCG 250-500iu SQ ED
    wks 15-18 Nolvadex 20mg ED
    wks 15-18 Aromasin 25mg ED
    or if you use the Clomid instead of Aromasin
    Clomid wk 15 300/100/100/100/100/100/100mg
    Clomid wk 16 100/100/100/100/50/50/50mg
    Clomid wk 17 50/50/50/50/50/50/50mg

    Diet looks good.

    Workout:
    There is a lot that I would change in your workout. I'm not saying it's bad. I would just do it differently. Workout routines are a personal preference. The important thing is that you work each muscle and don't miss any workouts.
    Last edited by DaGunz; 09-04-2011 at 11:23 AM.

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    i dont like anything about that cycle

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    I'm a newb at cycling so I won't comment on that.
    Diet however -

    I'm assuming you are a hard gainer cause of the profile or instead that you want to bulk.

    I don't know what your metabolism is like, but if you are superfast I'd feel comfortable with the amount of carbs.

    The one thing that sticks out at me is the protein sourcing.

    Tuna twice a day at 300g is a whole lot so I think you meant 30g.
    Assuming it is just 30g at a sitting, Tuna twice a day is very unhealthy, Tuna once a day is just as bad. Tuna once a week is okay, better with less frequency.

    I once went to Tuna as well. Ate it everyday. Got mercury poisoning. Luckily it was slight. Don't do it. The effects of daily doses of mercury however small, are horrible. A much healthier option is to eat lots of Tuna bi-monthly (not that you'd want or need to) than to incrementally dose mercury with daily consistency.

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    Bro go to beginners cycles and read.This whole thing is a mess.

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    Thanks for the feed back fellas.

    Just a few things to bring up, I must of been half asleep when I wrote this thread lol. At the time of posting, I was unsure of what my source has, but all good now, running test e 500mg

    Thanks DaGunz for the solid advice. I did a few typo's in my post regarding various things you mentioned. Also, I got some AI and have adjusted PCT accordingly.

    Tuna twice a day
    That was just one source of protein I mean't, the main protein is coming from chicken, turkey breast and red meat.

    I don't know what your metabolism is like, but if you are superfast I'd feel comfortable with the amount of carbs.
    Carbs are on par with what I responds well to my body, im active all the time during the day, so meta is good!

    I'm assuming you are a hard gainer cause of the profile or instead that you want to bulk.
    Pretty much yeah, just want size for now, come next year I'll diet down and change routine up to shape the muscles.


    Thanks fellas,

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