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    First Cycle Tweaking

    Whatsup everyone. First time poster long time reader.


    So I'm going to be running my first cycle in January so the next couple months I plan on annoying you guys and meticulously asking questions about every last detail to make sure its set up properly. In the mean time I'm going to be leaning out as much as possible beforehand while researching.

    First my stats:

    Age: 27

    Lifting Experience: 6 years with a couple large breaks mixed in due to life/work etc.

    Weight: 185 @ about 15% bodyfat.

    Cycles: I've used PH's in the past (Havoc, Tren X, H-Drol etc.) So I know how to run a proper PCT and how to stay proper on cycle.

    Diet: My strongest point...consider myself a nutritional guru.


    I've been reading up as much as time permits and I also ordered Anabolics 10th edition to really understand the minutia of a cycle.




    Now that introductions are over
    I'm looking for a lean cycle so I was thinking of stacking Test E/Primo/EQ. From what I've read the sides on that cycle will be relatively mild
    Current plan (obviously there will be tons of modifications over the next couple months).

    Week 1 (Frontload): 1000mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ – 20mg Nolva
    Week 2: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ – 20mg Nolva
    Week 3 (Introduce HcG ): 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 4: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ – 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 5: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ – 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 6: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 7: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 8: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 9: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 10: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ -300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 11 (Taper off EQ): 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 12: 600mg Test E - 400mg Primo - 600mg EQ - 300 iu HCG – 20mg Nolva
    Week 13: 20mg Nolva
    Week 14: 20mg Nolva
    Week15 (Day 1): 300mg clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
    Week 15 (Day 2-7): 100mg clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
    Week 16: 100mg clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
    Week 17: 50mg clomid + 20mg Nolvadex






    Initial thoughts/comments/concerns?


    Like I said this will be a work in progress for 1-2 months before I start actually putting money down so I want to make all the tweaks necessary.

    I get the feeling that I may be dosing things alittle too high but you guys tell me what you think.


    Thanks~

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    Height?

    Stick with test only for a first cycle, your diet/training will dictate whether your gains are lean or not.

    Re work your PCT: no need to go above 50mg/ ED with the clomid, imo.

    Also, I'm curious about your diet...since you're a 'guru'

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    x2 stats ht weight bf%

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    Nutritional guru @15%bf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Height?
    I'm 5'11


    Current PR's:
    DB Flat Press 105 x 5
    Squat 315 x 8
    DL 405 x 8


    Quote Originally Posted by yungone501 View Post
    Nutritional guru @15%bf?
    At the risk of coming across rude I didn't realize I needed to be completely shredded to know what I'm talking about.

    I'm pretty OCD when it comes to research.

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    There's alot of room between 15 and shredded. My intention was not to be rude but merely to extract more info about ur diet. We get alot of fruitloops coming through here so i question all i see.

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    Hey dont worry about yungone he is always rippin me on my grammar or lack of

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    way to much for a first cycle. and eq sucks.

    there is no need to frontload.

    Just run test at 500mg a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Hey dont worry about yungone he is always rippin me on my grammar or lack of
    There's a "g" at the end of ripping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungone501 View Post
    There's a "g" at the end of ripping.
    when you can get a custom title is should be "forum spellchecker"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    when you can get a custom title is should be "forum spellchecker"
    How about "spellchecker extraordinaire"???

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    Yea I think I will tone it down a bit.


    Either run Test by itself or maybe just kickstart it with something like Dbol .

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