clenbuterol or efedrin

[7TIM7]

clenbuterol or efedrin what is the main difference? and is clen and efedrin metabolism?

and right now i am on sustanon 250 and dianabol

and if i take clen, is it safe to take it with sustanon?

[Dukkit]

ephedrin is a stimulant

clen is a thermogenic

the body reacts differently to them but the end result can be the same... fatloss

yes clen is safe with sust.

[coldfear]

that post makes no sense ephedrine and clen both act on beta 2 receptors with clen being a specific beta 2 agonist. They are both thermogenics and both cns stimulants.

as for the OP its safe as long as your bp and heart rate dont go too high. Both are effective but I prefer eca just because it helps keep my appetite down whereas clen doesnt.

[Dukkit]

yes they are both cns stimulants but your body temp will raise more with clen . and you will get more jitters from ephedra.
at least thats how i react to each.

hence... my post

i put it that way so that he could make a better decision.
is he a surgeon? a tattoo artist? then taking high doses of both wouldnt be good. but he could get away with ephedra moreso then clen in those situations. at least until he builds a tolerance to clen after a few days.

is he in an office type workplace or in classes where he has to do presentations? then high clen probably wouldnt be good cuz he'd be sweating his balls off in front of everyone.

i was putting it in laymans terms for the OP since he seems new both compounds

how bout this... use both. use 2 weeks of clen then stop and use 2 weeks of ephedra. rinse and repeat.
add some yohimbine to either and youll get even better results.

[coldfear]

That also doesn't make sense because the reason you take two weeks off clen is to allow your beta 2 receptors to become sensitive again. Ephedrine hits some of the same receptors so it would be counter productive to use it during your two weeks off.

[Dukkit]

As YOU have said... Clen is a selective Beta agonist.

And ephedra and its alkaloids are Alpha and Beta agonists.

So your beta receptors are still getting enough of a break while running Ephedra.

Plus... Clen is stronger and longer lasting as a beta agonist. Which is why its half life is 36-39 hours.
While ephedras is 3-6. HUGE difference. So because ephedra is weaker, doesnt last as long and is out of your system quicker... Your beta receptors have plenty of time to recover and "clean out"

Why dont we just let the OP try it and see what he says.

We all know this game is about experimentation. Clen doesnt work well for everyone. Either does Ephedra.

[coldfear]

fair enough man good discussion haha

[7TIM7]

thx for the answers!(im swedish so my english sucks) i have read that clen has anabolism in it and ephedra takes away some muscle mass asswell...

but me goal with this is just 2 take away fat and at the same time have my muscle mass left... (like zyzz)

so clen is best for that result?