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09-06-2011, 07:39 PM #1New Member
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Next cycle
I'm 20 years old 510 180 pounds 8-10% bf
This is going to be my 4th cycle I'm thinking about doing
1000 mg t400 1-12 weeks
800mg eq 1-12 weeks
50mg anabol 1-4 week
50mg anavar 8-12 week
I have a Pretty good work out schedule I go at least 4 to 6 times a week
And I plan of havin a high protien diet with weight gainer 3 times a day
Im looking for some helpful words not to get beaked so leave ur comment to yourself if it's not helpful thanks
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09-06-2011, 08:08 PM #2
WTFF 4 cycles and your 180?
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09-06-2011, 08:21 PM #3
I hope you consider critiquing not beaking you. First, IMO, you are to young for steroids , but according to you post this will be your 4th cycle. Have you had blood work done? Do you know the damage you may or may not have done to your own endocrine system? You may be on hrt sooner than you want.
Whats your goal for this particular cycle?
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09-06-2011, 09:27 PM #4New Member
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I had two d Bol cycles hen I was 18 first one gained me 45 pounds kept about 35 of it. the next four weeks cycle at 30 mg a day gained me 5 pounds and kept 2 of it doing the exact same meal diet and workout schedule. I was around 175 at 6% body fat 4 months later did a straight inject test cyp 600 mg a week with d Bol 40 mg a day went to 201 pounds with about 4-5% body fat I kept lots. I found out I had a minor hernia found when I went in or getting hit in the nuts in backyard football about 4 months after doc said no working out went down to 170.. Heals up and i started working out again and and gained back up to 180 7% body fat I'm going to get approved by the doctor to see if I'm able to do them again this is the cycle I came up with I'm still going to wait about a month or two just wanted some advice on it
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09-07-2011, 08:32 AM #5New Member
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I hopeing to get back up and around 210 area when all finished
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09-07-2011, 08:41 AM #6
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09-07-2011, 08:53 AM #7
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle
AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.
Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.
Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.
TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.
Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.
Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development
DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.
No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.
This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment
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09-07-2011, 09:09 AM #8
20 yrs old, 4 cycles, 180 lbs and running a gram of test already...And you gained 45 lbs on a dbol cycle and kept 35? What were you a holocaust survivor who just discovered food? Can I get some of that miracle dbol?
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09-07-2011, 09:14 AM #9
Calling you on this one. No way you kept 35 lbs of muscle after a one cycle of dbol .
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09-07-2011, 01:02 PM #10New Member
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I was just debating wether or not to do half the dose of the injects and drop anadrol to like 30 would that give me significant gains
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09-07-2011, 01:10 PM #11
How about you stop cycling and wait until your 25 before you do any more damage.
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09-07-2011, 01:19 PM #12
So you started using steroids when you weighed 140lbs? Didn't any sort of common sense in your head say "hey, maybe this isn't such a good idea afterall?"
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