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09-07-2011, 08:01 PM #1New Member
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900mg of 11 oxo for a 19 year old
My friend is thinking of doing this, he has been lifting for a year and has shitty genetics and wants to succeed in his passion
sure he has more gains to be made but hes inpaitent
now 11 oxo is a non methly PH and all he would need is a SERM
what kinda possible long term side effects can he face?
what should he look out for? prior medical conditions
he says he will get blood work done
and since he isnt very big he should keep every single amount of his gains correct?
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09-07-2011, 08:07 PM #2
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yeah yeah 'my friend'
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09-07-2011, 08:07 PM #3
Another 19 yr old with a friend.
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09-07-2011, 08:14 PM #4New Member
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please guys i came to this forum for answers
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09-07-2011, 08:19 PM #5
The best advice is don't do it.
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Advice = Dont do it.
"Your friend" is a idiot if he thinks he has 'horrible genetics'
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09-07-2011, 08:23 PM #7New Member
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okay
but my friend has a passion and he cant reach it because of his genetics, he works very hard in the gym with little results and slow gains
its not like hes injecting large amounts of test its a very MILD ph....
please can i stop getting the "dont take it advice" for my friend?
he needs to be prepared, he just wants this little aid to build a base for his arms
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09-07-2011, 08:24 PM #8
PH is worst that steroids . read how many people got screwed over PH and couldn't recover after a year even with aggressive PCT
and the gains are not worth it. you are just 19. u can gain naturally really fast
shitty genetics is a stupid excuse
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here you go, what you wanna hear
Go on gear, get huge, dont worry about PCT, diet or actually working hard. Steroids are a magic pill that make u swole and horny and have no ill effects. The gov is just scard of them thats why its illegeal!
Since u need more test production, eat more cholesterol cuz thats where your body gets testosterone from.
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09-07-2011, 08:29 PM #10New Member
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^ and some people do rec drugs, and some people kill people, and some people do gear with no precautions, and some people are just idiots that think they know more than life itself.
Does that make them right/good/correct?
"your friend' is lazy.
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09-07-2011, 08:39 PM #12
Are we still going on about the "friend". Man this is the internet. Just say its you. We all know it.
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09-07-2011, 08:39 PM #13New Member
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09-07-2011, 08:41 PM #14
At 19, the answer is probably yes.
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09-07-2011, 08:44 PM #15New Member
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09-07-2011, 09:01 PM #16
Don't do it!
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09-07-2011, 09:15 PM #17Associate Member
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You're trying to convince yourself...err your friend...that it will be ok.
900mg of 11oxo (or any prohormone/steroid ) will throw the endocrine system for a loop at the tender age of 19.
Even though it seems like he's doing it right (SERM, bloodwork, starting off slowly), it's still not a good idea.
Grow up and deal with it. You're not gonna find external validation here, and you certainly won't have a great cycle if you have to go to a forum to get assurance/moral justification.
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