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[Hatchet_Man]

Hey guys, everyone on this board is solid and I have got great results with your advice in my past cycles . I am planning on a var , tbol and clem cycle . I have had great success with my tbol, var and test prop cycles in the past. Does any one have any advice or horror stories about clen ? Any dietary or supplement ideas?
Stats
Age - 25
Height - 5'9"
Weight - 187
Bf - 16%
experience 3 years
Plan -
Weeks 1-8 tbol 80 mg Ed
Weeks 1-8 Var - 50 mg Ed
Weeks 2/3/6/7Clen - 40 mg Ed
Pct nova and clomid.

Try to get ready for my wedding so my hot wife is only looking at me on the beach. Lol

[gixxerboy1]

i would rethink that cycle if you want to get it up for your soon to be wife

[songdog]

I agree 2 orals no alone is bad enough.You need to do some research read beginners cycles.

[Hatchet_Man]

I'm basing it on test prop. I am aware that my tbol needs to outweigh my var use for libido. Used the both before with test prop, only new unknown is clen . Any advice fellas

[Hatchet_Man]

Will also be using milk thistle and liv52, I also have arimidex on hand. I could switch the clen to injectable

[gixxerboy1]

I'm basing it on test prop. I am aware that my tbol needs to outweigh my var use for libido. Used the both before with test prop, only new unknown is clen. Any advice fellas

i dont see any test prop in the cycle

t-bol isnt going to help with your libido

[Hatchet_Man]

Please feel free to give input and critiq or am I just 'tarded?

[hankdiesel]

test only with a good diet and you'll be a ripped up beast bro. Leave that other crap alone.

[Granovich]

80 mg of tbol for 8 weeks
thats too much!
4 weeks is ok
and where is test
use only test + tbol or test + var
add clen to your nolvadex + clomid PCT

[im83931]

I'm basing it on test prop. I am aware that my tbol needs to outweigh my var use for libido. Used the both before with test prop, only new unknown is clen. Any advice fellas

What makes you think Tbol needs to outweigh var for libido? This doesn't make sense to me.

[Hatchet_Man]

I heard that on this board about a year go, when I posted a thread about my first test prop, tbol, var cycle.lol I'll cut out the var and do test and tbol, save the clen for pct. I have a great diet that my nutrionist put together, it's worked very well for me. I just have a hard time losing body fat and getting good definition. Natural w/o gear my flat bench is 285, and I don't really push it over 300 while on cycle. I just get bigger, not "ripped" as I hope. I get definition in my arms, back and shoulders, very fast, but chest and stomach wise just bigger, no real definition. It's like I lose weight, and am fit but it's hard to see progress.