Help me design my second cycle please

[streeter]

I have written about 5 now and scrapped them all. So hopefully some experienced pro out there can help me write a good second cycle. I don't need help with the orals or the PCT. I only need help with the oils. Here's the deal.

I want to go 14 weeks but that's not in stone.
I have 2 10ml bottles of Pentadex300 (Sust) I want to use at least one of them
I have 2 bottles of Deca 300 I want to use at least one of them.
I have plenty of Test E@250mg/ml and Test Cyp@200mg/ml

I really don't think I want to run over 850mg total weekly But I am open to suggestions

I will run HCG and AI I know how to do that. Been on HRT for a year and will use my HRT to PCT

Thanks, P.S. Of course all this is fictional for fun and the challenge of who can come up with the most creative body building cycle

If you don't want to post it here or want to PM me with questions feel free. Again Thanks

Here is an example of the best one I have been able to come up with so far. I'm sure it could be better.

Week one
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Two
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Three
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Four
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Five
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Six
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Seven
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Eight
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Nine
Sust 600mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

Week Ten
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)

By week Ten Used 10 ml Sust and 10ml Deca

Week Eleven
Test E 500mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly

Week Twelve
Test E 500mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly



Week Thirteen
Test E 500mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly

Week Fourteen
Test E 500mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly

PCT=HRT (I should have explained that sorry)
Week Fifteen and so on HRT
Test cyp 150mg

I did not include orals or AI or HCG in the example since I believe I have that down pretty well.
But if you must know plan on running first 4 weeks DBOL 40mg daily
HCG 250mg twice a week
Anastrozole .5mg every third day or more if sides develop

[dec11]

600mg each of the sust and deca? depends on what you're comfortable with. if you've not used deca before, it can be a bitch to recover from so def tun the hcg

[dec11]

and wouldnt you know, you edited while i posted lol

i'd just do the sust and deca and keep the rest for another cycle tbh

im lost, if you're on hrt then why then there is no pct, you just drop down to trt dose

[streeter]

600mg each of the sust and deca? depends on what you're comfortable with. if you've not used deca before, it can be a bitch to recover from so def tun the hcg

I will run the HCG and I know deca is hard to recover from but since I am on HRT for life I figure I will run it this cycle I need the joint pain relief anyway for this 46 year old body. Thanks for the info Bro I do appreciate any recommendations from you guys. I won't be doing this until after Thanksgiving so I have time to get this fine tuned

[streeter]

and wouldnt you know, you edited while i posted lol

i'd just do the sust and deca and keep the rest for another cycle tbh

im lost, if you're on hrt then why then there is no pct, you just drop down to trt dose

Yup I believe your right on that since I posted my last one I came up with it does just use 1 bottle of sust and I believe 1.4 or 1.6 bottles of deca. It probably could use more examining. I am tired of using calc and crunching numbers LOL and yes my trt dose is week 15

[streeter]

P.S. In my posted example check out between week 10 and 11 it changes from there

[dec11]

bottom line, if you're on trt then you've no recovery issues at all. you dont need hcg and theres no harm in running 600mgs of both compounds, id just so the sust and deca if it were me.

[streeter]

bottom line, if you're on trt then you've no recovery issues at all. you dont need hcg and theres no harm in running 600mgs of both compounds, id just so the sust and deca if it were me.

So are you saying run 600mg sust and 600 mg deca each week no Test E or C until I use up those 4 bottles? Or are you saying run 600mg sust with some test then run the deca with the test after I run out of sust? Sorry I need it explained a little further or more simply for me

Could you just edit my cycle above and repost it to give me a clear idea how you would run it?

[streeter]

I think I finally have it pretty fine tuned so as to not go over 1 bottle of sust and one bottle of deca throughout cycle. What do you think?

Week 1-8
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 150mg Total 700 mg

Week 9 & 10
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Week 11-14
Test E 500mg or Test Cyp 400mg and Deca 300mg Total 850 mg or 700mg




Week One
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Two
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Three
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Four
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Five
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Six
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Seven
Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Eight
SMonday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml )
Saturday (Deca .5ml)

Week Nine
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)


Week Ten
Sust 300mg Test E 250mg Deca 300mg Total 850 mg

Monday and Thursday (sust .5ml) (Test E .5ml ) (Deca .5ml)


By week Ten Used 10 ml Sust and 6ml Deca

Week Eleven
Test E 500mg=2ml or Test Cyp 400mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly or 700mg weekly

Week Twelve
Test E 500mg=2ml or Test Cyp 400mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly or 700mg weekly




Week Thirteen
Test E 500mg=2ml or Test Cyp 400mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly or 700mg weekly

Week Fourteen
Test E 500mg=2ml or Test Cyp 400mg=2ml
Deca 300mg=1ml

Total 800mg weekly or 700mg weekly

By end of cycle I will use 1 bottle of sust and one bottle of deca
HRT
Week Fifteen
Test cyp 150mg

Week 16 Test cyp 150mg

[dec11]

So are you saying run 600mg sust and 600 mg deca each week no Test E or C until I use up those 4 bottles? Or are you saying run 600mg sust with some test then run the deca with the test after I run out of sust? Sorry I need it explained a little further or more simply for me

Could you just edit my cycle above and repost it to give me a clear idea how you would run it?

sust is test, i assume you know that?

1-12 sust 600mg
1-12 deca 600mg

13- beyond, trt dose

you keep using the term PCT, it doesnt apply at all, you arent coming off. a PCT is when coming off a cycle and trying to re-start your natty test

[streeter]

sust is test, i assume you know that?

1-12 sust 600mg
1-12 deca 600mg

13- beyond, trt dose



you keep using the term PCT, it doesnt apply at all, you arent coming off. a PCT is when coming off a cycle and trying to re-start your natty test

I knew it was test but when I looked up the different compounds in it all four were not Cyp or E two are short esters and two are long and I thought being on HRT I should also try to keep a base of Cyp or E in my system. I suppose it really doesn't matter though. If I run just 600mg sust with the deca ...I will have to do the math and see how it comes out if its more than two bottles then in the middle of the cycle I will have to go back to test E or Cyp

Looking at what I think your suggesting is basically running sust and deca for 12 weeks at 600mg then running test only for 13 and 14 then going back to TRT dosage?

I understand I won't PCT I was just letting all who read this know that my PCT is HRT so they wouldn't flame me for not putting anything down and people thinking I was some noob who doesn't know how to end a cycle but I will stop using the term PCT in the future I edited it to say HRT. Sorry I can't help but think and type defensively on forums I have been on enough and long enough to know not to let blood in the water ")


By the way sust and/or deca at 600mg a week comes out to 2ml each week for 12 weeks that's 24ml I am 4 ml short of each doing that which forces me to buy more or run the cycle I designed above and end up with one bottle of each left over for another cycle.

Or are you trying to tell me the amount of deca in my cycle won't give me the gains I could get unless I up it?

[streeter]

Holy Crap I make things difficult! OK I finally think I got a simple to read understand and run cycle. here it is. What do you think?

Week 1-10
Sust 600mg Deca 450mg


Week 11-14
Test E 750mg and Deca 450mg




Week 1-10
Monday and Thursday (sust 1ml)
Saturday (Deca 1.5ml)


Week 11-14
Monday and Thursday 1.5ml Test E
Saturday Deca 400mg=1.5ml


HRT

[dec11]

Holy Crap I make things difficult! OK I finally think I got a simple to read understand and run cycle. here it is. What do you think?

Week 1-10
Sust 600mg Deca 450mg


Week 11-14
Test E 750mg and Deca 450mg




Week 1-10
Monday and Thursday (sust 1ml)
Saturday (Deca 1.5ml)


Week 11-14
Monday and Thursday 1.5ml Test E
Saturday Deca 400mg=1.5ml


HRT

just a bit lol.

looks fine to me, dont understand the hike in test 11-14 though, if its for dosing sake, just do 500mg test