First Cycle help please. I have given into the juice :)

[vinmy004]

Hey everyone, Mike here, and this is my first cycle ever, and would love some help. For about 3 months now ive been trying to learn as much as I can and I think I have come up with a good cycle. My stats are as follow:

Age 26 and 10 months
Weight 91 kg
Height 179 cm
Bf 14 %

Here is my cycle and Post Cycle

week 1 250mg test e + dianabol 25mg

week 2 250mg test + dianabol 25mg

week 3 250mg test e + dianabol 25mg

week 4 250mg test e + dianabol 25mg

week 5 250mg test e + 1ml Trenabol E

week 6 250mg test e + 1ml Trenabol E

week 7 250mg test e +1ml Trenabol E

week 8 250mg test e + 1ml Trenabol E

week 9 250mg test e + 1ml Trenabol E

week 10 250mg test e

Post Cycle

Week Nolvadex
1 40mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 10mgs/day
4 10mgs/day

Week Aromasin
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 10mgs/day

Ok so this is my plan, I am not going to run to much Test E 250 on my first cycle, and i think running 25mg dianabol for the four weeks won’t be too harsh on my body (correct me if im wrong). As for the trenabol E some will say not to use it but i wouldn’t mind to give it a try and my friend gave it to me as a present so its a bit of a freebie (its legit stuff just he got extra as a mistake).

For my post cycle, before you have a go at no HCG, i couldn’t get it anywhere and ive looked so long but i have given up. But ive read that my cycle isn’t to bad so it shouldn’t be that important compared to someone running more types for a longer cycle. So can you give me any comments on my cycle and post cycle.

And one question should i wait 2 weeks before i run my post cycle or right after my last prick?

[Littlejonny]

I don't no what the vets will have to say but you shouldn't run tren on a first cycle. Not even a second IMO. Your bf is rather high you could be gyno prone. Both estrogen and prolactin issues so arimidex and dostinex will need to be ran. It's not very good running only 250mg per week it's a waste of money. Bump it up to 500 week 1-12 and run the tren 1-10. Dbol should be ran at 40mg a day for 4 weeks. Pct starts 14 days after last pin (nolvA and clomid) I don't use hcg cause having small balls doesn't bother me too much. With the right diet and pct you'll be fine

[vinmy004]

hey thanks, i heard Aromasin is better then armidex especially with Nolvadex, and also that i dont really need clomid as nolvadex is better in most parts as they are similar. As i am only running 250 test cant i run the tren then? as it shouldnt be that strong together should it?

[lovbyts]

hey thanks, i heard Aromasin is better then armidex especially with Nolvadex, and also that i dont really need clomid as nolvadex is better in most parts as they are similar. As i am only running 250 test cant i run the tren then? as it shouldnt be that strong together should it?

Is this a new math where 1+1 = 1? No adding tren will make it much stronger and not something you want to do for a first or 2nd cycle. You should keep it at only one compound until you know how your body is going to react and what side effects to expect. Trying to get lean for 3 moths is not long at all, it's only the beginning of when your body is starting to get use to whatever you are doing.

[vinmy004]

yea i get where ya coming from im just scared that test e 250 isnt going to be enough to see decent resutlts, and i cant get a hold of more test e 250 before u ask to get more. will i see alot of gain with test e 250 and dianabol? or not really, plus how is my post cycle look?

[Littlejonny]

You'll gain slot of water with the Bol. Probably put on heaps of water weight. Estrogen aromatizes highly with dbol. Yes aroma is good for pct along side nolva but DURING I always use adex. But aroma is fine too. Clomid should be used when using nandrolones (tren and deca) as it binds to the receptors better than nolva

[lovbyts]

If your diet is good 250 will show gains. For a first cycle 300-400 would be better. Start PCT 2 weeks after cycle.

[vinmy004]

Thanks for the advise but i really want to run tren. Is it really dangerous to? Can I see how I feel after the first four weeks and if I feel healthy and fine can I try the tren? Or are u saying it won't help me at all. I heard it can be used for cutting which i wouldn't mind. What's realistically going to happen with only 1ml of it for 5 weeks. Sorry if I'm being stoubrn or stupid

[dec11]

Thanks for the advise but i really want to run tren. Is it really dangerous to? Can I see how I feel after the first four weeks and if I feel healthy and fine can I try the tren? Or are u saying it won't help me at all. I heard it can be used for cutting which i wouldn't mind. What's realistically going to happen with only 1ml of it for 5 weeks. Sorry if I'm being stoubrn or stupid

go right ahead.

jesus, you've been given the right advice and what do you do? throw it right back, wtf did you even ask for?!

[lovbyts]

I/we would not advise it. It's much stronger and can have more severe side effects. It's really best to have some patience. You will have better, smother, more keepable gains if you take it slow and steady. We have all been there and wanted to stack this with that but patients is a future. First cycle is usually riddled with sides such as insomnia, oily skin, acne and running a high dose can make it worse as well as staking can make it a LOT worse. When I first ran test I got acne. Not any more. Tren can give you high Blood pressure and has a adverse effect on your appetite and energy level, you dont feel like do any cardio or anything sometimes. Remember, these are all hormones and adding a lot of hormones to your system at one time before you are use to it can screw you up.

[songdog]

Well I can see you dont want to take advice so why bother us with your question?

[shooterdude]

lol u should read about some other peoples problems that they have had on tren before you decide to take it. That stuff def looks like somthing to work your way up to after a bunch of cycles. I havn't been on this site that long and i've seen some posts saying they stopped they cycle early because of some serious problems they were having with the tren.

[Lemonada8]

*sigh* clomid and nolva are NOT the same thing, and if you want to run tren I would def use it in ur pct. Same with hcg, hcg is a must in every cycle IMO , and ESP if ur gonna use tren.
And tren isn't for a first, second or even 3rd cycle... It's much to powerful. 250mg of test a week won't produce noticeable results???!?! If that is the case there is a problem elsewhere, if you can't grow with 2x the amount of normal (high normal) test in ur system then there is prolly a problem with diet and training.
I would rethink tren use, hcg use, and ur pct sucks IMO.

Test is best on a first cycle, nothing beats it

[vinmy004]

thank u guys for everything, i am taking ur advise and goodbye tren! i mean im sure its good but taking ur advice im not going to take it until later cycles thanks alot, i have posted my new cycle with my new cycle and better post cycle could u let me no if its ok thanks again everyone for having my back lol