Blast and cruise on Test and Anavar?

[Supertotal]

Like everyone else here I'm sure, having just finished off a cycle I'm already planning my next. I'm done messing around, and the next cycle is going to last a long long long time. Possibly forever (TRT if I screw it up? LOL). First off, let me say that I LOVE Anavar. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE it. My first cycle was almost 3 months of 80mg/day and it was mind-blowing in every way.

But test is best everyone says. And I'm not going to cruise on orals, obviously. So when I find a good supplier, I'm thinking around (EDIT) 250mg a week of test enanthate or prop for cruising. I respond like crazy and don't need a lot, just more than natural, enough to call a cycle. I know prop is a pain to deal with with its frequent injections, but I like the quick in/quick out aspect, and the fact its just a bit purer. I'd much rather live on suspension, suspension sounds great, but daily injections would get old quick.

I would like to 'blast' with Anavar though. When it comes time, bump the test up just a bit to (EDIT) around 500mg/week or so, and add 50-80 Anavar. If the test is worth anything I should be off the charts on even a 50mg/day (plus test dose) Anavar blast. I've never done test or injections before.


I am *only* looking for very lean strength gains here, the usual superhuman recovery, possibly more aggression in the gym. Size just comes with strength, and I'm definitely big enough already. I don't need 20" arms. I would like to lean out consistently doing this, more than my usual diet would normally allow. I'm not interested in bloat, water retention, estrogenic sides, or massive weight gains.

How does this sound?

[Supertotal]

Forgot the stats again. Early 30's, 5'9", 225lbs, 12%BF, training 6 years, 1600lb raw total at 220lbs. Powerlifting, Olympic lifting. 3 oral cycles, though only 1 was serious.

[marcus300]

You need to do alot more research on blasting and cruising because your ideas are way off. You want to run test at 300-400mg per week for your cruising and blast with var, then bump your test dose up to 100mgs per week!! it doesn't make sense.

You are also nowhere near ready for staying on cycle for a long time, you have only done one proper cycle. You need to learn how to walk first before running. Run a decent cycle and go into pct and recover before implement advance protocols.

[dec11]

cruising 300-400 pw is madness!!!

as marcus says, you've alot of studying up to do

[Supertotal]

You need to do alot more research on blasting and cruising because your ideas are way off. You want to run test at 300-400mg per week for your cruising and blast with var, then bump your test dose up to 100mgs per week!! it doesn't make sense.

You are also nowhere near ready for staying on cycle for a long time, you have only done one proper cycle. You need to learn how to walk first before running. Run a decent cycle and go into pct and recover before implement advance protocols.

I think you misunderstood me on the doses. I want to do a normal test dose for the cruise. People have different idea of what that dose is, but mine will be on the lower side of the scale. Then when it comes time to blast, I want to bump the dose UP a bit, not bump it TO 100mg. So say blast at 100, maybe 200mg test a week MORE than the cruise, plus the orals.

I've done and recovered from two cycles just fine. Both oral cycles I admit, but I'm doing okay. The third one would have been a serious one, but the stuff I was taking was pretty much bunk. I start the PCT today. I might be new-ish to the drugs, but I've accomplished more in 5 years clean than most users do in a lifetime. I'm healthy and prime for this road, but I also have some serious ambitions, and I am pretty far behind my competition in terms of lifting on the juice. It's pretty much now or never.

[marcus300]

I think you misunderstood me on the doses. I want to do a normal test dose for the cruise. People have different idea of what that dose is, but mine will be on the lower side of the scale. Then when it comes time to blast, I want to bump the dose UP a bit, not bump it TO 100mg. So say blast at 100, maybe 200mg test a week MORE than the cruise, plus the orals.

I've done and recovered from two cycles just fine. Both oral cycles I admit, but I'm doing okay. The third one would have been a serious one, but the stuff I was taking was pretty much bunk. I start the PCT today. I might be new-ish to the drugs, but I've accomplished more in 5 years clean than most users do in a lifetime. I'm healthy and prime for this road, but I also have some serious ambitions, and I am pretty far behind my competition in terms of lifting on the juice. It's pretty much now or never.

Your not making any sense. what is going to be your cruise dose and blast dose?

Like ive said your along way off implementing an advance cycle when you havent really done a decent one yet.

[Supertotal]

cruising 300-400 pw is madness!!!

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I should edit my post, it's more of a bridge between cycles I propose. I would just cycle normally for the next year or so, but thinking competitively, that just seems like a lot of wasted gains in 'off' periods. Probably 250 test a week in between 'blasts'. Sorry, it's way early and I'm typing this in between eating my breakfast and getting ready for work. Brainfart. I'll edit that later if this thread doesn't turn into a flamefest. LOL

[dec11]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I should edit my post, it's more of a bridge between cycles I propose. I would just cycle normally for the next year or so, but thinking competitively, that just seems like a lot of wasted gains in 'off' periods. Probably 250 test a week in between 'blasts'. Sorry, it's way early and I'm typing this in between eating my breakfast and getting ready for work. Brainfart. I'll edit that later if this thread doesn't turn into a flamefest. LOL

no, im serious, thats just a constant cycle at that dose. 150mg pw is a cruise dose. you need to think about this, you could certainly wreck your natty system and be on trt for good

[Supertotal]

Your not making any sense. what is going to be your cruise dose and blast dose?

Like ive said your along way off implementing an advance cycle when you havent really done a decent one yet.

Okay, I get your second point, but my post makes sense. I'll lay it out another way.

Weeks 1-8 - test 400-500mg/week, Anavar 50-80mg/week. (duration can vary depending on program?)
Weeks 9-whenever its time to blast again, test 250mg/week.

Time in between blasts is likely just going to be the minimum time it takes for the bad oral effects to dissipate. 2-3 months perhaps?

[marcus300]

Like ive said before you haven't even done a decent cycle yet so IMHO your a long way off doing anything like this.

[Supertotal]

no, im serious, thats just a constant cycle at that dose. 150mg pw is a cruise dose. you need to think about this, you could certainly wreck your natty system and be on trt for good

Yeah, gotcha. Like I said, its early and I really should be at work right now. Just a brainfart. Most stuff I've read and people I've talked to that do this say around 250mg/week (I'll edit my post). If even 100-150 is going to shut me down, or keep me down, then why not a bit more? Concerning the permanent damage, well, that's something we all accept as a risk. I'm just looking for more payoff from that gamble. I have serious ambitions here. It was incredibly difficult to compete all these years and not start this earlier. I would imagine most of my competition started cranking earlier in their careers, but I think the self-knowledge I gained getting to this level naturally will pay off bigger dividends when I start 'cheating'. LOL

Awesome avatar by the way.

[dec11]

Yeah, gotcha. Like I said, its early and I really should be at work right now. Just a brainfart. Most stuff I've read and people I've talked to that do this say around 250mg/week (I'll edit my post). If even 100-150 is going to shut me down, or keep me down, then why not a bit more? Concerning the permanent damage, well, that's something we all accept as a risk. I'm just looking for more payoff from that gamble. I have serious ambitions here. It was incredibly difficult to compete all these years and not start this earlier. I would imagine most of my competition started cranking earlier in their careers, but I think the self-knowledge I gained getting to this level naturally will pay off bigger dividends when I start 'cheating'. LOL

Awesome avatar by the way.

you have to think about general health, heart etc