been on longer then normal..need to come off Help

**Superfutura** · 09-24-2011, 01:48 PM

Ive been lurking this site for a short time but now I realized Ive gone too far.

Im 34 yrs old
5ft 10" 220lbs (bodyfat at 15% so I know after reading some I need to trim down before coming back)
active in gym for about 3 years.

Had Gyno surgery in 08 and been hitting the gym ever since. (gyno natural since i can remember)

this is my very first experience with AAS

Since March 2011 Ive been running (so im going on 7 months ON)
Test cyp 500/600mg week (now on test ethn same amount)
also Ive been running Neutropin HGH at 3 to 4 units daily (6 days a week)

I did run a 4 week standonex (whinny) tabs back in July(too many sides) didnt like it.

problem is both my previous suppliers told me they never come off and I was stupid to believe not to worry about cycling.

My new connect is much more seasoned and matured in the field and strongly suggested that I look into pct for a while.

Thinking about running clomid and nolva.

do I just come off the Test and keep running the HGH? or does that defeat the purpose.

Your help is much appreciated.

**Superfutura** · 09-24-2011, 01:53 PM

also Im scheduled for a vasectomy in end of October any worries there?

Had alot of acne break outs in chest and back of neck so Im currently taking Doxycyclin 150mg day and panoxyl cream wash 10% on affected areas (works wonders if any one cares)

**bjpennnn** · 09-24-2011, 01:55 PM

If i was you I would come off the test, buy some hcg , look into triptrolien, an get some blood work done. if you are going to run clomid and nolva you need to wait 2 weeks from your last injection.

You could look into running some peptides while your coming off that may help keep some of your gains and stay motivated in the gym.

**bjpennnn** · 09-24-2011, 01:56 PM

May i ask what your starting stats

**Superfutura** · 09-24-2011, 02:01 PM

I was 227lbs not as toned as Iam now. i lost alot of my mid section. is that what you mean

**Superfutura** · 09-24-2011, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

If i was you I would come off the test, buy some hcg , look into triptrolien, an get some blood work done. if you are going to run clomid and nolva you need to wait 2 weeks from your last injection.

You could look into running some peptides while your coming off that may help keep some of your gains and stay motivated in the gym.

thank you for the response. I will collectivley take evrything I learn on this thread and do the right thing.
a friend of mine ran same things with me and he just quit cold turkey no pct 3 weeks ago. I have continued cause scared to come off.

**Bio-Active** · 09-24-2011, 06:08 PM

Bro you need to run a hcg protocol before coming off. You may recover with out the hcg but why risk it? Just my 2 Cents.

**layeazy** · 09-24-2011, 06:19 PM

7 months in kinda long but your not running massive dosages...

You should fully recover if you utilise HCG , Clomid and nolva or torem...

Might take a little longer but you should recover also i would keep using the HGH..

**Bulkn** · 09-24-2011, 06:30 PM

Yeah run hcg and i would continue the growth to help recovery / keep gains.

**ijbickerdike** · 09-25-2011, 05:05 PM

Your stats aint too bad tbh, you need to run HCG and possibly aromasin , the cycle is way too long and what gave you the need to cycle that long????? whay run for so long, did you not realise that you would be fvcking yourself up.

**hankdiesel** · 09-25-2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by layeazy

7 months in kinda long but your not running massive dosages...

You should fully recover if you utilise HCG , Clomid and nolva or torem...

Might take a little longer but you should recover also i would keep using the HGH..

I did all that and never recovered from a 12 week cycle (it was probably my 6th or 7th one). 4 months after I got bloodwork done and was out of the normal range. Now I'm on hrt. I would be shocked if the op could stay at 600mg for 7 months and get his levels within normal range.

**1000_DaysAsTheLion** · 09-25-2011, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Superfutura

also Im scheduled for a vasectomy in end of October any worries there?

Had alot of acne break outs in chest and back of neck so Im currently taking Doxycyclin 150mg day and panoxyl cream wash 10% on affected areas (works wonders if any one cares)

thanks for the cne wash info i might check that stuff out.

I believe in the pct section Swifto has advice for coming off of long cycles and he is quite knowledgeable.

**MastaMan** · 09-25-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

I did all that and never recovered from a 12 week cycle (it was probably my 6th or 7th one). 4 months after I got bloodwork done and was out of the normal range. Now I'm on hrt. I would be shocked if the op could stay at 600mg for 7 months and get his levels within normal range.

What all did you try to restore your natural testosterone production? and what did your pct look like for your last cycle?

**im83931** · 09-25-2011, 07:31 PM

I would reschedule my surgery. RBC is probably off the charts. I also would wait till I recovered a bit before.

**dec11** · 09-25-2011, 08:22 PM

you 'll need a very aggressive pct id suspect, how easily did you usually recover from cycles? its so long since i ran hcg etc the protocols have prob been modified for the better

swifto is the man for this kinda problem

**Superfutura** · 09-26-2011, 09:09 AM

I really appreciate everyone responding so far...

Originally Posted by layeazy

7 months in kinda long but your not running massive dosages...

You should fully recover if you utilise HCG , Clomid and nolva or torem...

Might take a little longer but you should recover also i would keep using the HGH..

Thank you, Im sure hoping thats the case.

Originally Posted by Bulkn

Yeah run hcg and i would continue the growth to help recovery / keep gains.

yeah im thinking to keep running the hgh

Originally Posted by ijbickerdike

, the cycle is way too long and what gave you the need to cycle that long????? whay run for so long, did you not realise that you would be fvcking yourself up.

I did not realize it. i know i know. stupid.
Im still running the cycle cause of lack of knowing pct. hence this thread. getting my shit together to properly pct. (should of known this before i began)

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

I did all that and never recovered from a 12 week cycle (it was probably my 6th or 7th one). .

what does it mean that you never recovered. means hrt was your only choice>?

Originally Posted by 1000_DaysAsTheLion

I believe in the pct section Swifto has advice for coming off of long cycles and he is quite knowledgeable.

cool waiting on his response

Originally Posted by im83931

I would reschedule my surgery. RBC is probably off the charts. I also would wait till I recovered a bit before.

yeah, NO Vasectomy for me till I figure this out. (wifey gonna trip out, cause we made an agreement lol)

Originally Posted by dec11

you 'll need a very aggressive pct id suspect, how easily did you usually recover from cycles?

swifto is the man for this kinda problem

its my first cycle ever!

**dec11** · 09-26-2011, 02:05 PM

^^^ ignore this scamming fool

**hankdiesel** · 09-27-2011, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by MastaMan

What all did you try to restore your natural testosterone production? and what did your pct look like for your last cycle?

It's all right there buddy, in the post I was quoting. hcg /clomid/nolvadex I ran a good amount of each for the proper length.

**MastaMan** · 01-15-2012, 02:10 AM

I don't know if you got your balls working again, but if you didn't, I've seen medical studies where they've used triptorelin to restart natty test production

**lovbyts** · 01-15-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Superfutura

also Im scheduled for a vasectomy in end of October any worries there?

Had alot of acne break outs in chest and back of neck so Im currently taking Doxycyclin 150mg day and panoxyl cream wash 10% on affected areas (works wonders if any one cares)

You already got some good solid advice. May I ask why the vasectomy at only 34? I made the decision to get one when I was 43 when I went in for a surgery of a spermatocele. Now I wish I would have waited. Honestly I would suggest waiting. As sure as you are about it now I promise you that you have no idea what life might throw at you and what you might decide 5 years from now or where you might be.

**Pac Man** · 01-15-2012, 07:28 AM

You can always put those puppies in the freezer till you are ready.
dec11 ??
I've seen guys fully recover from much longer and harder cycles than that, also seen guys shut down permanently after one light cycle.
It's hit and miss, you'll either recover or be on TRT.

**lovbyts** · 01-15-2012, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Pac Man

You can always put those puppies in the freezer till you are ready.
dec11 ??
I've seen guys fully recover from much longer and harder cycles than that, also seen guys shut down permanently after one light cycle.
It's hit and miss, you'll either recover or be on TRT.

NO, not the freezer, keep them in the refrigerator. You can do damage to them in the freezer.