Dbol cycle - Kidney pains?

[JohnM6810]

Hello i'm currently running dbol only cycle and i'm in the 2nd week of the cycle nearly the 3rd.

The dbol i'm using are 5mg with 1mg digestible deca

This is how I've planned out my cycle

Week 1 - 30mg
Week 2 - 35mg
Week 3-6 - 40mg
Week 6-8 - 30mg - Prevent me from crashing?

I take a tablet like every 3 hours with food and take milk thistle 3 times a day.

The cycle is going very well for me I've been on the cycle for 12 days and gained a total of 1 stone(14lb)+

Since yesterday i got some really bad pains in the lower right side of my stomach where i presume your kidneys are located. This has got me really worried should i stop the cycle or is there something i can do?

Also by any chance could it be kidney stones???

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

A dbol only cycle is not a good idea, it can lead to many side effects. What are you planning for pct and what is your ai? It could many things, kidney stones I'm not sure about.

[JohnM6810]

For my PCT i'm using clomid, I know many people say don't use dbol only but i've also seen many people who have had decent gains also jabs are something i really never want to touch.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

If it's the lower right side then it is more likely something else as the kidneys are located on both sides and towards the back. Your live sits higher around middle of Stomach and chest, your intestines primarily run in the lower right side of stomach.

[JohnM6810]

So if this was to do with my kidney i'd most likely be feeling it on both sides?

Emm no that i think about it on friday when i was doing sqats with really heavy weight it went a bit wrong and i felt some pain on the same area s now.

Do you recommend i see a doctor? also the pain is really bad it's hard for me to sleep

[Honkey_Kong]

You notice any blood in your urine? Or any changes in how often you go? It can be anything, give it a few days and see if there is a change for the better or worse. By the way, stop the dbol only cycle. You're risking health for gains that you're going to lose a month or two after you stop taking them.

[JohnM6810]

You notice any blood in your urine? Or any changes in how often you go? It can be anything, give it a few days and see if there is a change for the better or worse. By the way, stop the dbol only cycle. You're risking health for gains that you're going to lose a month or two after you stop taking them.

Nope not really and i go around i think 3-4 times a day due to the amount of water i'm drinking. Well as i said i know a lot of people who have been on a dbol only cycle and used clomid as a PCT keeping around 80-90% of there gains.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

Yes and no, it could be one kidney or both, most likely both. One thing though to remember is that dbol is very taxing on the liver due to it's 17aa position which allows it to pass through the liver twice. This process invokes your liver to produce enzymes to try and help break it down which can overwork it. If you remember hurting it in a work out then you know at least what caused it. I would say see a doc if it keeps hurting or gets worse and lower your weights and increase reps. Form is everything brother. Get better man.

[JohnM6810]

Yes and no, it could be one kidney or both, most likely both. One thing though to remember is that dbol is very taxing on the liver due to it's 17aa position which allows it to pass through the liver twice. This process invokes your liver to produce enzymes to try and help break it down which can overwork it. If you remember hurting it in a work out then you know at least what caused it. I would say see a doc if it keeps hurting or gets worse and lower your weights and increase reps. Form is everything brother. Get better man.

Yh I know it's toxic to the liver thats why i take milk thistle 3 times a day, also i'll post in the morning to see if the pain is gone and if it reappears if i take dbol .

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

Do you recommend i see a doctor? also the pain is really bad it's hard for me to sleep

If it hurts to the point of sleep loss, yes see a doctor. Especially if you have insurance, you won't lose anything and can be saving yourself a lot of trouble.Milk thistle helps but it's not nearly full proof. Your body will tell you when you need to get help. Listen to it. If it feels as if you need a doc, you probably do man.

[gixxerboy1]

well it sounds like you have no clue about anything.
It sounds like normal dbol back pumps.
And there is no such thing a digestible deca ? So who the hell knows what you are taking there.

[Bonaparte]

well it sounds like you have no clue about anything.
It sounds like normal dbol back pumps.
And there is no such thing a digestible deca? So who the hell knows what you are taking there.

I was going to say something similar.

[dec11]

well it sounds like you have no clue about anything.
It sounds like normal dbol back pumps.
And there is no such thing a digestible deca? So who the hell knows what you are taking there.

lol, oh dear!

[Honkey_Kong]

You guys get back pumps on your side though? I always get them centered around the muscles right by the spine in the lower lombard. I don't think the OP has anything major though. My guess is just muscle strain or just a body cold brewing.

And that banner above sells a digestible deca . So, maybe the OP isn't even using real gear and these symptoms are all placebo effect?

[baseline_9]

well it sounds like you have no clue about anything.
It sounds like normal dbol back pumps.
And there is no such thing a digestible deca? So who the hell knows what you are taking there.

Yeh

I would bet my left nut that its just back pumps from the dbol...

I get it big time at anything over 25mg ED..... I now 'pulse' my Dbol on training days only at a much higher dose and it is much better (even tho I am taking similar mg per week)

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

There you go, these guys know more about it then I do so I'm glad they chipped in. I was going to say something about the deca but thought the same about the store. Thx guys.

[JohnM6810]

Well i'm not sure about the deca but these are pakistan dbol and from what i know there the only dbols which have 1mg digestible deca.

Also the pain seems to have gone completely now nothing there what so ever, and i just started to look into back pumps well 2 days before i started getting this pain i did deadlifts and after my back pain went from the dead light this pain started kicking in... so i'm guessing it's back pumps what can i take to ease the pain?

[gixxerboy1]

there is no such thing as digestible deca . There is no combo d-bol/deca pills. There is no 1mg deca.
You have no idea what kind of pills you are putting into your body. Again maybe you should stop since you could be taking anything really

[JohnM6810]

Emm but they are dbol seeming as i've put on 1st in 2 weeks and my strength has gone through the roof!

[gixxerboy1]

oh yea Pakistan dbol with 1mg of deca .
And you know this for sure how?
do you know if there is even dbol made it Pakistan or what it is supposed to look like?
Or did the guy who sold them to you tell you a nice story?
Its your body not mine

[JohnM6810]

oh yea Pakistan dbol with 1mg of deca .
And you know this for sure how?
do you know if there is even dbol made it Pakistan or what it is supposed to look like?
Or did the guy who sold them to you tell you a nice story?
Its your body not mine

The person who sells them is my gym owner i'm not the only one who buys them from him as well i think atleast 20 people buy dbol alone from him :S

Also the pain seems to have gone now completely?

[gixxerboy1]

you dont get it. He already lied to you on what is in the pills. Do you really make a habit of taking pills that you dont know what they are?

Cause i promise you they are not pakistan dbol with deca in them.

You must be pretty young

[ghettoboyd]

this is unreal man, all these kids buying drugs from a gym owner?...who in there right mind would be so careless as to sell them to kids?...i weep for the future...op its peeps like you that give aas users a bad rep...do yourself a favore and at least learn the basics of all the compound so you dont sound retarded talking about oral deca and such...

[mani_bono]

For my PCT i'm using clomid, I know many people say don't use dbol only but i've also seen many people who have had decent gains also jabs are something i really never want to touch.

that means you have no business doing steroids , if you can't inject, steroids are not for you ...

[dec11]

OP, you are playing with fire, listen to these guys and step back from it

[JohnM6810]

yh thanks for the advice guys i didn't take any today at all... and no pains anywhere just to be sure i'm going to take it tmoz and if the pain starts i'll know the cause and stop!

what do you recommend i take instead of dbol then?

[dec11]

yh thanks for the advice guys i didn't take any today at all... and no pains anywhere just to be sure i'm going to take it tmoz and if the pain starts i'll know the cause and stop!

what do you recommend i take instead of dbol then?

i recommend you take a pct and learn about what you're doing

[JohnM6810]

i recommend you take a pct and learn about what you're doing

I've researched for approx 2 months before i tried anything i got a PCT

[dec11]

I've researched for approx 2 months before i tried anything i got a PCT

man no offense, but judging by some of these posts you've not got a clue

[gixxerboy1]

I've researched for approx 2 months before i tried anything i got a PCT

i hope you do better research in other parts of your life.
2 months of research and you thought a d-bol only cycle was a good idea. You thought there was oral deca . And cycling at 18 was a good idea

[JohnM6810]

i hope you do better research in other parts of your life.
2 months of research and you thought a d-bol only cycle was a good idea. You thought there was oral deca. And cycling at 18 was a good idea

Ok ill admit i made really stupid mistakes... but seeming as i've only been on for less than 2 weeks if i use clomid as a PCT do you think i can get back on my natural levels? I rather stay off this stuff until i'm around 21+

[Honkey_Kong]

I've researched for approx 2 months before i tried anything i got a PCT

You wouldn't happen to be a D student, would you?

[JohnM6810]

You wouldn't happen to be a D student, would you?

whats that?

[Sicko]

snore....

[Honkey_Kong]

whats that?

You said you were researching for two months prior, and you never read anything on why an 18 year old shouldn't be cycling? Or what about why an oral only cycle should be avoided? If you spent that much time researching and this was the best you could do, you must've been a D student in school or worse.

[dec11]

You said you were researching for two months prior, and you never read anything on why an 18 year old shouldn't be cycling? Or what about why an oral only cycle should be avoided? If you spent that much time researching and this was the best you could do, you must've been a D student in school or worse.

i think he's just proved himself to be a troll mate, no point in feeding him further.

theres just been too many young users threads lately to be true, was never this bad before. its all day everyday now, and we all know who's most likely to be behind it

[WhiteTiger]

I know you guys are ready to abandon this post but I wanted to know more about the back pumps with Dbol . What is this about, also do most of you recommend not to take orals? I was wanting to do a Test, Deca , Dbol stack.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

I know you guys are ready to abandon this post but I wanted to know more about the back pumps with Dbol. What is this about, also do most of you recommend not to take orals? I was wanting to do a Test, Deca, Dbol stack.

You can run orals no problem if you know what you are doing, you need to do a ton of research into any substance you put in your body. You should use the advanced search and type in what your looking for there will hundreds or thousands of posts with answers. Also read up in the side effects of each substance at each dose and how they interact with each other. I wouldn't touch orals til you know everything about them just like any aas. I feel stupid for giving advice to a ****ing 17 year old, if I had known I would of saved my time and trouble. Thanks gixxer for clearing it all up.

[JohnM6810]

No idea why everyone says oral only is a nono i've seen many threads where people have taken oral only cycles and had decent results also i found out what this pain was seemed it only occurred when i took dbol on an empty stomach.

Also i want advice so please post if your going to help me thanks.

As i stated i've only been 2 weeks into the cycle i've gained over 16lb and it's working very well. I know i'm too young thats why i want to know if i go on a PCT right now could i recover back to my normal levels?

[gixxerboy1]

No idea why everyone says oral only is a nono i've seen many threads where people have taken oral only cycles and had decent results also i found out what this pain was seemed it only occurred when i took dbol on an empty stomach.

Also i want advice so please post if your going to help me thanks.

As i stated i've only been 2 weeks into the cycle i've gained over 16lb and it's working very well. I know i'm too young thats why i want to know if i go on a PCT right now could i recover back to my normal levels?

there is no guarantee. but the longer you are on the less your chances