Twenty Week Blast. Test E, Test P, Tren A, NPP

[Little1]

Wassup AR.

I already have this cycle planned and I am going for it. I just want to know if you guys may have any experience to share. Any suggestions.

My stats:
27 Years old
230 lbs
6'
BF: 11-13% (I assume because that's me in my avatar
Been using steroids for almost 2 years
No pct. Cruise.

I am about to start week 7 of:
Test E -700mg/week
Tren A -600mg/week

I have three more weeks to go. I was going to cruise at 300mg Test E for 11 weeks, but decided to go right into another cycle because I am just now noticing change.

So after my last day of this cycle I will switch to:

700mg Test P/week
700mg NPP/week

I have tons of Caber, hCG, Viagra, Cialis and Nolva on hand. So this will be a 20 week cycle. Then I will drop down to my cruise for a few months.

Has anybody ever done this? Any suggestions?

[bjpennnn]

hey bro...it would be much more beneficial if you at least cruised for 4-6 weeks in between those cycles. Just my two cents. it would make your blast that much better and at 300mg at your weight you should not lose much weight at all.

[Little1]

hey bro...it would be much more beneficial if you at least cruised for 4-6 weeks in between those cycles. Just my two cents. it would make your blast that much better and at 300mg at your weight you should not lose much weight at all.

That's the thing. I do not know what I can cruise at....
First cruise I used 1 Irani amp per week, but lost every bit of strength and size with no libido. So I thought I needed more. So I got my hands on some UGL oil. When in reality, the amps could have been fake. So then I blasted with Deca and Sustanon. Anadrol too. No weight gain. No strength gain. Just bloating.

After 14 weeks I quit. Then I tried a different UGL. Their test was at 350mg/ml. I started cruising with 1cc/week, and after week 5 I was gaining weight and strength. This cruise felt like a cycle. SO I went straight into this blast.

But the NPP and Test P I have is from the same UGL as the Deca that did NOTHING for me...so I am nervous. Nervous it is bunk. But it is also EO, and I HATE EO. Hate, hate, hate it. But the pain comes with the territory.

So just to be safe, I will never cruise below 300mg. Once I hit 30 years old I will cruise around 400mg of Test Cyp and 1 amp Primo for life

[Little1]

A short cruise would help? Brother I won't mind cruising for about five weeks. I just don't want to wait another 10-12. Because I am just now noticing gains.

This will also be my first time with NPP. The NPP is dosed at 150mg/ml, and I have 50ml. I ran Deca last year and was not happy. I will not run Deca again, but figured NPP at a higher dose may be different

I remember you used to have an avatar of yourself and you were shredded. You ran some long Test Suspension and gh cycle or something like that. Hope it worked for you. You looked awesome from what I remember.

[The Bear 79]

A short cruise would help? Brother I won't mind cruising for about five weeks. I just don't want to wait another 10-12. Because I am just now noticing gains.

This will also be my first time with NPP. The NPP is dosed at 150mg/ml, and I have 50ml. I ran Deca last year and was not happy. I will not run Deca again, but figured NPP at a higher dose may be different

I remember you used to have an avatar of yourself and you were shredded. You ran some long Test Suspension and gh cycle or something like that. Hope it worked for you. You looked awesome from what I remember.

U should read the thread titled "you'll want to read this" by Ronnie Rowland. It's packed full of the very information ur lookin 4 / need. Been considering it myself. Good luck bro.

[Little1]

U should read the thread titled "you'll want to read this" by Ronnie Rowland. It's packed full of the very information ur lookin 4 / need. Been considering it myself. Good luck bro.

If it is about the slingshot, I have. But what I am doing is working. I am happy with my results in my two years of experience. I read that thread a few years back, but I want to learn my own principles first. I want to know what steroids work for me. What AIs work for me. What my diet can do, and so forth. Once I understand my body completely, I will research into theory. I will have my own knowledge and experience to apply to it. I just want to know what works.

Bruce Lee tried several styles. Adapted what he loved. What worked for him. I am no different. Theory is different with everybody.

[The Bear 79]

Dont hurt urself bro, wut ur purposing is VERY risky. Slow & steady wins the race..................

[gymfu]

Isn't deca and NNP the same steroid just with different ester? NNP is Nandrolone Phenylpropionate right? Deca is Nandrolone Decanoate.

[dec11]

Isn't deca and NNP the same steroid just with different ester? NNP is Nandrolone Phenylpropionate right? Deca is Nandrolone Decanoate.

dont see deca mentioned in his proposition?

[gymfu]

dont see deca mentioned in his proposition?

Sorry should have referenced post #3, where he said he didn't like results with deca.

[Little1]

yeah, fair enough. i couldnt handle the sweats on 500mg last time had to drop back down to 350mgs lol

I only got the sweats like 5 nights so far. I used to love them because I knew what I had was real. But the sweats and nightmares stopped

But insomnia comes and goes!!

Sorry should have referenced post #3, where he said he didn't like results with deca.

Yea I did not like the Deca. This NPP is from the same UGL...so I am nervous.... I want to test it right away. I don't want to depend on it as a stand-alone blast in case it is garbage. That is why I am running such a higher dose. And after a few weeks, if I am not gaining, I will flush that shit down the toilet and try a new lab

[dec11]

I only got the sweats like 5 nights so far. I used to love them because I knew what I had was real. But the sweats and nightmares stopped

But insomnia comes and goes!!



Yea I did not like the Deca. This NPP is from the same UGL...so I am nervous.... I want to test it right away. I don't want to depend on it as a stand-alone blast in case it is garbage. That is why I am running such a higher dose. And after a few weeks, if I am not gaining, I will flush that shit down the toilet and try a new lab

i had the sweats 24/7 mate, had to turn and walk out of afew shops with complete embarrassment without even getting what i went in for, the sweat would literally pour down my head and face just from walking from the car to the building!!!

[Little1]

Isn't deca and NNP the same steroid just with different ester? NNP is Nandrolone Phenylpropionate right? Deca is Nandrolone Decanoate.

Yes from what I've read.

Test is test. But 500mg of Test E and 500mg of Test P can yield different results...

But understand, this will be 700mg. Previously, I ran only 500mg of Deca. Many people I talk to swear by NPP.

[dec11]

looks good to me big k, take it you've done tren before?

[dec11]

should mention that trt will most likely be on the cards unless you're lucky

[Little1]

should mention that trt will most likely be on the cards unless you're lucky

Already decided to accept that. I am not coming off

[Little1]

Yep, this is my third run. Both other times were Tren E.

However, I abused t3 on my second tren cycle. So I wasted that one. I was dumb. I never needed t3

[dec11]

Yep, this is my third run. Both other times were Tren E.

However, I abused t3 on my second tren cycle. So I wasted that one. I was dumb. I never needed t3

yeah, fair enough. i couldnt handle the sweats on 500mg last time had to drop back down to 350mgs lol

[gymfu]

Yep, this is my third run. Both other times were Tren E.

However, I abused t3 on my second tren cycle. So I wasted that one. I was dumb. I never needed t3

What hapend with t3? Too high doses, duration? I'm asking because I'm using t3 and don't want to do the same thing. Think I did enough research. Do you have any permanent problems?

[Little1]

What hapend with t3? Too high doses, duration? I'm asking because I'm using t3 and don't want to do the same thing. Think I did enough research. Do you have any permanent problems?

Nope. Nothing bad. I don't remember the dose. I think 2 pills per day, I just don't remember if it was MG or MCG. It was the proper dose. I lost a lot of fat, but could not hold on to strength. So I got sad watching my strength fall. That is the only reason I won't use it again. I am fine now

[gymfu]

Nope. Nothing bad. I don't remember the dose. I think 2 pills per day, I just don't remember if it was MG or MCG. It was the proper dose. I lost a lot of fat, but could not hold on to strength. So I got sad watching my strength fall. That is the only reason I won't use it again. I am fine now

Ok, that's to be expected using that stuff. I will ONLY use it precontest.

[The Bear 79]

Nope. Nothing bad. I don't remember the dose. I think 2 pills per day, I just don't remember if it was MG or MCG. It was the proper dose. I lost a lot of fat, but could not hold on to strength. So I got sad watching my strength fall. That is the only reason I won't use it again. I am fine now

Start a log or somthin bro, 2 keep us posted, I'm curious 2 c how this works out 4 ya, as I'm considering almost the same thing. Ur kinda like the resident guinea pig now. Keep an eye on ur vitals, stay healthy. Good luck brother.

[dec11]

Start a log or somthin bro, 2 keep us posted, I'm curious 2 c how this works out 4 ya, as I'm considering almost the same thing. Ur kinda like the resident guinea pig now. Keep an eye on ur vitals, stay healthy. Good luck brother.

^^^this also

[Little1]

I had to stop Clen too. It rips my heart apart over 120mcg oral, or 100mcg injection. I am terrified of DNP. So all my fatloss comes from cutting carbs and EOD cardio

[dec11]

I had to stop Clen too. It rips my heart apart over 120mcg oral, or 100mcg injection. I am terrified of DNP. So all my fatloss comes from cutting carbs and EOD cardio

best way imho

[gymfu]

I had to stop Clen too. It rips my heart apart over 120mcg oral, or 100mcg injection. I am terrified of DNP. So all my fatloss comes from cutting carbs and EOD cardio

Yea clen sux, I'm on that too but just 100mcg. I'm scared of DNP as well.

GL bro

[The Bear 79]

Clen never did anything 4 me that I couldn't or haven't accomplished without it. Useless IMO

[dec11]

Clen never did anything 4 me that I couldn't or haven't accomplished without it. Useless IMO

same here, dangerous overrated crap imo

[Little1]

Don't know what caused it. I was on the Deca/Sustanon/Anadrol cycle when it happened for the first time, and hasn't stopped since

[Far from massive]

Damn Dec11

Learn something new everyday here, I have been sweating my ass off, now that I am on a Cyp/Deca blast its much worse but even on my 200 wk TRT it had become a major problem. Went to a doctor and told him I was sweating profusly at work and even mentioned that I had fallen through a roof at work and caught myself by one arm on a truss and that now in addition to a ripping feeling in my midback my whole arm was tingly on the inside, still all he did was a bunch of tests for circulatory problems etc. It was only after googling the symptoms I found I had a muscle tear and C3 vertabre problems. Since then (three months) the vertibrae/numbness in the arm problem has cleared although I still have to keep the stack under control on lat work, however now that I look back on it the problem with the profuse sweating started right around the time I fell so its possible that a disruption of the nerve chain was caused in the accident.

Thanks for sharing the information,

FFM

[dec11]

Damn Dec11

Learn something new everyday here, I have been sweating my ass off, now that I am on a Cyp/Deca blast its much worse but even on my 200 wk TRT it had become a major problem. Went to a doctor and told him I was sweating profusly at work and even mentioned that I had fallen in a roof at work and caught myself by one arm and that now in addition to a ripping feeling in my midback my whole arm was tingly on the inside, still all he did was a bunch of tests for circulatory problems etc. It was only after googling the symptoms I found I had a muscle tear and C3 vertabre problems. Since then the vertibrae/numbness in the arm problem has cleared although I still have to keep the stack under control on lat work, however now that I look back on it the problem with the profuse sweating started right around the time I fell so its possible that a disruption of the nerve chain was caused in the accident.

Thanks for sharing the information,

FFM

no prob, its a much more common condition than ppl are aware, alot are too embarrassed to seek help with it. Lovbyts mentioned on a similar thread in the lounge where we'd been talking about this, the correlation between HH and back/rib traumas.

ive also a trapped nerve in that general area which the doc has tied into the accident and HH.

kinda got little's thread off topic here. theres alot you can do to at least minimise the sweating, PM if you need to know anything or create a lounge thread and see how many respond with similar, i'll bet theres quite a few.

btw deca increased mine also, just as tren did