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Thread: First Cycle: Test Cyp / Deca, please help with AI and PCT thoughts.

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    First Cycle: Test Cyp / Deca, please help with AI and PCT thoughts.

    Test Cyp: 400mg/week 1-12weeks
    Deca: 300mg/week 1-10

    Questions:
    Should I run an AI on cycle...getting mixed reviews on Aromasin or Arimidex. Nolvadex is recommended but not with Arimidex. So that leaves me with Nolvadex with Aromasin. HCG is also recommended throughout cycle as well as in PCT. I am looking for clear absolute direction for on cycle therapy as well as PCT. I'm also considering dropping the deca on this cycle. If I were to do that how would my cycle and PCT change.

    34years old
    5'9"
    183
    Looking to lean up, cut up and put on size.

    Thanks for the help in advance

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    Definitly drop the deca for your first cycle, one compound at a time to learn how your body reacts...

    Keep Nolva on hand during your cycle, this is my personal approach for if I get a lump as it worked wonders for me when I did, ran 40mg ED for a week then continued to end of cycle on 20mg. Although now I will be running arimidex throughout.

    For your next cycle, If you know you get signs of gyno you could run arimidex throughout, you may not need it so no point taking it unless you do.

    Some run HCG, some dont. Personally I like to run 250 iu 2 x per week throughout cycle.

    PCT:
    Clomid 100/100/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Good luck,

    Gonzo

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    Should have asked your BF and training experience???

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    What's your bf%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183 View Post
    Should have asked your BF and training experience???
    Dam oznog you beat me by 1 minute! Lol

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    BF is 14%

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    Thanks a lot bro. So I'll keep Nolva on hand and if I don't need it, just run it at PCT with Clomid. Correct? Thanks again!

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    Shoot...training experience is average. I'm not a big guy. I've been in the gym for years but have mixed up workouts due to sports that I compete in, swimming, triathlon etc. I'm not huge but I feel that I have good definition and wanted test to speed up the process, put on some good mass and feel good. I'm not looking for huge gains. If that helps.

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    2nd dropping the Deca. If you have trained traithlon your diet will be very different. Take a look at the diet section, it really important and very hard when you are use to high carb diets. When you think you are eating right, you still are not. I went from cycling to lifting 15 years ago and it took my first cycle before i fully understood how off my diet was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183 View Post
    Definitly drop the deca for your first cycle, one compound at a time to learn how your body reacts...

    Keep Nolva on hand during your cycle, this is my personal approach for if I get a lump as it worked wonders for me when I did, ran 40mg ED for a week then continued to end of cycle on 20mg. Although now I will be running arimidex throughout.

    For your next cycle, If you know you get signs of gyno you could run arimidex throughout, you may not need it so no point taking it unless you do.

    Some run HCG, some dont. Personally I like to run 250 iu 2 x per week throughout cycle.

    PCT:
    Clomid 100/100/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Good luck,

    Gonzo

    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markponmaui View Post
    Thanks a lot bro. So I'll keep Nolva on hand and if I don't need it, just run it at PCT with Clomid. Correct? Thanks again!
    Thats the go mate

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