First time using this site ( AND STEROIDS )

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 02:04 AM

Why hello there! Im 18, 6'1 and 170lbs, and ive decided to start using steroids to gain the muscle mass i cannot achieve by just working out and eating a lot. Ive done a ton of research, and ive decided to do 250mg of test enanthate a week + Dianabol for 11 weeks. As for PCT, ill be taking clomid and nolvadex .

Any advice? And suggestions? Do you think this is a good cycle for a newbie? If this cycle goes good, ill defiantly up the dosage to at least 500mg.

I also have some questions! I'll number them so its easier for you bros to answer them.

1. How much acne does one usually get from test e? And does it go away a few weeks after the last shot?

2. What should i except to gain?

3. Do you want me to post pics weekly?

Thanks bros!

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-05-2011, 02:09 AM

Somebody's trolling.....

**marcus300** · 10-05-2011, 02:14 AM

Welcome to the forum

Starting steroids at 18 yrs old is probably the worse thing you could do. Your natural testosterone hasn't fully developed yet and by shutting it down by taking steroids you can cause yourself some serious side effects what would be with you for the rest of your life, limp dick, low sex drive, acne, weight loss, gyno, depression, mood swings, low testosterone etc to name just a small few. You need to wait till your system as fully matured otherwise your going to have some health issues you wished you never had in your teens.

It is also pointless in using steroids because you will lose all gains after the cycle and all you will be left with is the side effects above and no gains. This is because your diet cant support any new tissue so do the right thing and go to the diet section post your diet and let us redesign your diet and use what you have naturally which is a high amount of testosterone because if you cant gain now you wont gain taking steroids.

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 02:37 AM

why would i lose my gains?

**marcus300** · 10-05-2011, 02:52 AM

Dont start steroids at 18yrs old, did you even read what I worte?

Dont ignore my advice or you will regret it,

do you really want to be struggling get a hard on?

do you want to have low test for life and lose even more weight?

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 02:56 AM

im actually almost 19. And im done growing. And im not ignoring it, im taking it into consideration. But it seems pointless working out..... I work out every day except once or twice on weekends... i slam back QuickMass every day. Taking in tons of cals, but i dont gain shit. This seems like the logical way, to boost my body, so that i will get that mass, and keep a bit of it. I highly doubt one cycle of test e at 250 is gunna do dmg.

**marcus300** · 10-05-2011, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

im actually almost 19. And im done growing. And im not ignoring it, im taking it into consideration. But it seems pointless working out..... I work out every day except once or twice on weekends... i slam back QuickMass every day. Taking in tons of cals, but i dont gain shit. This seems like the logical way, to boost my body, so that i will get that mass, and keep a bit of it. I highly doubt one cycle of test e at 250 is gunna do dmg.

Your hpta isn't fully developed until around 25yrs.

Yes one cycle can cause these side effects,

You can't gain naturally now at your age you will not gain with steriods .

You come to a forum and ask experts about steriods and you won't listen, think about it

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 03:17 AM

I am listening... Its just i know people my age who took them, and they got giant... with no side effects that he told me of, and he kept majority of his gains..

And from what ive been reading on this site, and others. Majority of people who are doing them, are 19-25. I have yet to read about horror stories of horrible side effects that F's people up for life. Could be that im new to this. Do you know of any posts of teens (18-19) doing roids?

thanks a ton btw!

**ghettoboyd** · 10-05-2011, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

im actually almost 19. And im done growing. And im not ignoring it, im taking it into consideration. But it seems pointless working out..... I work out every day except once or twice on weekends... i slam back QuickMass every day. Taking in tons of cals, but i dont gain shit. This seems like the logical way, to boost my body, so that i will get that mass, and keep a bit of it. I highly doubt one cycle of test e at 250 is gunna do dmg.

you dont gain bro cus you arnt eating enough real food...marcus has said what you need to hear, not what you want to hear...dosnt it seem more logical to get you diet sorted first and start gaining naturaly before you try aas?...learn to walk before you start running bro,bbing is a marathon and not a sprint, you have your whole life to get big so why not learn and do it the right way...

**PurpleOnes** · 10-05-2011, 03:22 AM

You don't know that they don't have side effects, maybe not from outside, but things might be pretty fuxcked up inside. Don't mess with roids now , wait until your 24-25.

You will also need a lot of more research on diet, training, cycles and get your life together and by that I mean getting educated/steady job.

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 03:32 AM

Ive already bought them....so its kinda too late... so i dont really know the shelf life of test e. But youve convinced me to wait....a bit...Im going to eat like a mad man, train like a pro, and in 3 months, ill decide then. Can someone show me where the diet forum is? im going to check it out and take in new advice about my diet.

Thanks for the help Marcus.

**ddp2727** · 10-05-2011, 03:44 AM

It's towards the bottom of the forum thread page. Also you need to edit out how much you paid for them, no prices are allowed to be discussed. I know it was an innocent statement on the price but still not allowed just edit it out mate.

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-05-2011, 03:53 AM

Thanks brah. Can i ask why we cant talk about the price? Also, how come i cant go to my profile? it says i dont have permission?

**ROB.A** · 10-05-2011, 04:08 AM

Hey guys, i am new to this also but have a quick question...i got onto some. enanthate and deca . has anyone had any good results with these? Or are they a waste of $$.

Cheers Rob.

Please don't post ugl names
thanx

**marcus300** · 10-05-2011, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

Ive already bought them....so its kinda too late... so i dont really know the shelf life of test e. But youve convinced me to wait....a bit...Im going to eat like a mad man, train like a pro, and in 3 months, ill decide then. Can someone show me where the diet forum is? im going to check it out and take in new advice about my diet.

Thanks for the help Marcus.

Your just not getting it are you?

Your hormonal system hasn't fully developed so by shutting a system down whats not fully running at peak you can cause it to never reach peak levels which would result in you having low test for life ie limp dick etc, do you understand what your willing to risk to gain nothing? Lets put it this way lets say your 24yrs old at the same weight and height, your still a long way away for using steroids because your diet will not support any new tissue and you have no foundation so even if you did take steroids you will lose it all after the cycle, it doesn't matter if you start eating like a bodybuilder now, it takes months to lay down a foundation.

So you have 2 major things against you, your age and your diet either way your years away from starting steroids. It doesn't matter if you have bought them, throw them away or sell them it will be far better than crying all night because you cant get hard with your girl and your dick is that small your pissing on your hands.

These forums are littered with teeenagers with low test and issues with shutdown. You dont know anything about steroids or what they can do, you do eat correctly and no doubt you dont train correctly so when you ask people who know all about these things and you dont follow their advice its YOU who will suffer.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-05-2011, 04:33 AM

some peeps just cant be helped man they have ther mind set on taking something rather than learning the correct and responsible way to go about this...like most kids he will learn the hard way and regret this down the road...i just dont understand why peeps come on here asking questions from peeps with real world knowledge/experiance and still throw caution to the wind and do it anyways...like they say you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink....

**The Bear 79** · 10-05-2011, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

Ive already bought them....so its kinda too late... so i dont really know the shelf life of test e. But youve convinced me to wait....a bit...Im going to eat like a mad man, train like a pro, and in 3 months, ill decide then. Can someone show me where the diet forum is? im going to check it out and take in new advice about my diet.

Thanks for the help Marcus.

3 Months?? Ur gona b 25 & put on 30 lbs of lean mass in 3 months?? How u gona pull that 1 off??

**auslifta** · 10-05-2011, 06:05 AM

Listen to these guys whiteboy. Once you get your diet sorted, you'll see just how much you can grow naturally. There are 100's of threads about guys that have fvcked themselves up. Those are the small percentage that can admit they fvcked up. Learn from others mistakes, and yes it can happen to you.

**xxd1v3r** · 10-05-2011, 06:22 AM

thats todays youth they want it like everything else.....right now.....

**chuckt12345** · 10-05-2011, 07:01 AM

your young and ur metabolism is sky high,, youll start gaining weight easier as you age

**SlimmerMe** · 10-05-2011, 08:35 AM

OP I hope you listen and put away the juice or you will more than likely return begging for help when you have ED and want a magical solution to get rid of it plus you could end up on TRT for the rest of your life by messing up your endocrine system. Do you realize that when you are already producing TONS of hormones once you start injecting synthetic test your body tells you it no longer needs to produce so it will probably shut down your own production hence you will get ED. Why on earth would you want to mess with such a good thing you have going.

Do you think you know more than a 5 year old little boy? what would you tell a kid if he were climbing all over balcony which was 20 stories high? would you tell him to get down? or let him monkey around and free fall 20 stories? I bet you would tell him to get the heck down and stop being so silly risking his life. Well.... the guys here are telling you the same. DO NOT RISK THIS.

Come on over to the Diet forum if you haven't already....

**SlimmerMe** · 10-05-2011, 08:44 AM

Here is a guarantee: if you come on over to the Diet Question forum and get help from the gurus there I bet you will get a much better body than you could ever dream of getting with your get big quick plan. Do you think the guys who have great bods just juice? Dream on. They count every single darn macro and cook meals to put in tupperware to take to school or work and they train correctly all the time. If this were easy everybody would do it. And you have a real edge with your natural hormones now. So building a natural foundation first would take you way ahead of the game and you would not only catch up with all those beast you think you want to look like but you would pass them especially since they have been pumped with all kinds of chemicals and might have gyno to deal with plus their own test production has gone down the drain and they will forever be trying to catch up to where they started and that is a hard train to hop back on....if ever.....

**1zach4** · 10-05-2011, 12:32 PM

Don't start early

I came on here, just like you (read my posting history) looking for quick gains at a young age. Now go look at my most recent posts: I am now here again because I have had to start on TRT due to low test, no libido, ED, no energy, lack of sleep, mood swings, etc all because I wanted to gain some size when I was younger

Listen to the folks on here, they know what they are talking about, and if you don't listen to them....take advice from someone that was in your situation: you don't want to be on TRT @ 25

**Nooomoto** · 10-05-2011, 01:05 PM

LOL @ 3 months of working out and THEN he will decide. Is 3 months supposed to be a good measure of your natural abilities to grow?

**frsttmer** · 10-05-2011, 05:31 PM

dont do it!!. i know how your feeling, waiting till 25 seems forever, but at your age your test is already high, take advantage of that and listen to these ppl trying to help you.

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-05-2011, 06:25 PM

At 18 6'1 and 170lbs, I don't see any reason why you couldn't grow like a weed naturally. Problem is you're either A) not training good, B) not dieting good or C) both.

But then again, you're 18, you know everything. Go ahead and ruin your body, it's your life. TRT injections for the rest of your life is way underrated.... Personally, I'd take the advice these guys in here gave you, it's the best you're going to get. Change your diet and your training to the suggestions the experienced guys in those respective threads tell you once you post your routine and I promise you, in 3-5 years, you'll come back here and the people on this board were right.

**dec11** · 10-05-2011, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by 1zach4

Don't start early

I came on here, just like you (read my posting history) looking for quick gains at a young age. Now go look at my most recent posts: I am now here again because I have had to start on TRT due to low test, no libido, ED, no energy, lack of sleep, mood swings, etc all because I wanted to gain some size when I was younger

Listen to the folks on here, they know what they are talking about, and if you don't listen to them....take advice from someone that was in your situation: you don't want to be on TRT @ 25

listen to this guy's advice.

dont be a fvckn idiot

**mike954** · 10-05-2011, 08:51 PM

I know right now you think fvck these guys I'm doing it but just chill the **** out your body has what it needs to grow at this age if you get you diet in check I know it's tuff to listen but were all trying to help you !

**WhiteBoy18** · 10-06-2011, 12:50 AM

ive already said i was not going to. I created a blog about my 90-day challenge. And i be posting weekly pics to see if sticking to a good diet and a routine will pay off.

But thanks for the posts boys.

**xxd1v3r** · 10-06-2011, 11:21 AM

doing a 90-day challenge is not going ot tell you if your deit and weight training are going to pay off...you need to give yourself and your body a chance to grow it takes more than 90-days

**SlimmerMe** · 10-06-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

ive already said i was not going to. I created a blog about my 90-day challenge. And i be posting weekly pics to see if sticking to a good diet and a routine will pay off.

But thanks for the posts boys.

Good to hear~

And you might start a thread in the diet forum re: your 90 day challenge since in the diet section you might get more help and input in tweaking as opposed to a blog ....my .02

**dec11** · 10-06-2011, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteBoy18

ive already said i was not going to. I created a blog about my 90-day challenge. And i be posting weekly pics to see if sticking to a good diet and a routine will pay off.

But thanks for the posts boys.

no, you've posted you will decide whether or not to in 3mths

**Fetch** · 10-06-2011, 02:49 PM

I did a cycle at 18. Within a couple of years, I was diagnosed with secondary hypgonadism. I went from a normal, energetic, horny teenager to Viagra before I could even buy beer. I'll most likely never have kids because of TRT. I have to explain this to any girl I get serious with now, and I've lost good ones because of it. I didn't have anyone calling me an idiot and telling me why it's retarded to use before 25. I had a brother who just told me it would make me 'blow up.'

Sell your shit. Don't even consider using again for years.

**chuckt12345** · 10-06-2011, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Fetch

I did a cycle at 18. Within a couple of years, I was diagnosed with secondary hypgonadism. I went from a normal, energetic, horny teenager to Viagra before I could even buy beer. I'll most likely never have kids because of TRT. I have to explain this to any girl I get serious with now, and I've lost good ones because of it. I didn't have anyone calling me an idiot and telling me why it's retarded to use before 25. I had a brother who just told me it would make me 'blow up.'

Sell your shit. Don't even consider using again for years.

how old are you feltch?

**Fetch** · 10-06-2011, 03:10 PM

I'm 28, now.

**The Bear 79** · 10-06-2011, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Fetch

I did a cycle at 18. Within a couple of years, I was diagnosed with secondary hypgonadism. I went from a normal, energetic, horny teenager to Viagra before I could even buy beer. I'll most likely never have kids because of TRT. I have to explain this to any girl I get serious with now, and I've lost good ones because of it. I didn't have anyone calling me an idiot and telling me why it's retarded to use before 25. I had a brother who just told me it would make me 'blow up.'

Sell your shit. Don't even consider using again for years.

U hav 2 take viagra b4 u can buy beer................WTF??? Sorry...........................I had 2...................bad joke, I know.