Clen is overrated

**fizzaall** · 10-09-2011, 10:31 AM

Beside the shakiness I dnt feel anything
My cutting progress is normal , am losing fat at a very normal rate
It didn't add anything new to my cutting phase ,

Didn't match it's Internet hype or rating

Thinking about switching to EC stack , how is that compared to Clen ? I also could use an apetite supressant ?

Asking ppl who been on both

**Livinlean** · 10-09-2011, 10:40 AM

If you think clen is overrated your diet is obviously not in check. How long have you been on clen and what dose were you running?

**gixxerboy1** · 10-09-2011, 10:47 AM

how much clen are you taking. And what are you expecting

**fizzaall** · 10-09-2011, 10:58 AM

I'm losing fat , but in a normal usual rate like I usually lose at the beging of a cut

Am taking in 120 mcg

Expecting fatloss could be faster , I used alot of fat burner supps , I feel it's like a supp only with side effects , muscle cramps , shakiness , a little bit of lack of sleep . that's it
But TBH during WO my heart rate goes crazy , but again that could happen also with 400 mg of caffiene

Nothing unusual with the scale

**Livinlean** · 10-09-2011, 11:00 AM

How long have you been taking it?

**fizzaall** · 10-09-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Livinlean

How long have you been taking it?

I took it for 2 weeks , now am on my 1st week off

Do u compare it to EC ?
silly comparing EC to it ?

**Livinlean** · 10-09-2011, 11:05 AM

I've never taken EC so I can't compare. I will say tho I didn't notice much on my first 2 weeks on clen but the second time I did it for 2 weeks I did notice more of a difference.

Everyone's bodies different tho I have heard people saying clen didn't work well for them you may be in the same boat.

Your stuff is legit right?

**fizzaall** · 10-09-2011, 11:13 AM

Thanx

Well yeah , I can feel the side effects and I got other legit stuff from the same source

I really felt it in first 2 days though , when I was layin in be , I was hearing my heart pumps . After that it vanished , and I didn't see any noticeable results

Will give it another 2 weeks thanx again

**JohnnyVegas** · 10-09-2011, 09:07 PM

I don't think Clen gets a lot of hype here. Actually, people are constantly saying there is no magic substance you can put in your body that will add muscle of shed fat without a ton of work (and diet) to go with it.

I don't find Clen to be magical, and you won't either. Losing fat is hard, and I am with you on being frustrated by that. :-)

**aussie_bodybuilda** · 10-10-2011, 07:06 AM

perhaps the clen u got is dud / fake or u just took the wrong doses because i get good results with it - the gel horse tub one.. think it fuks wif ur heart tho lol

**magic32** · 10-10-2011, 07:08 AM

"Yes", Clen is VERY overrated, and so is T3. Hearing about these chemicals on the street makes one think they're miraculous!

Nevertheless, both work and work well, as long as the proper conditions exist. Have you read the Clen profile? If not, you should do so because (assuming you had geninue Clen) taking it for two weeks is not optimal.

As for Ephedra, it's not quite as potent as Clen, but it's less pronounced 'possible' side effects should also be considered.

You should read (or re-read) the profile to learn proper administration (dosage, frequency, duration), and how to create an idyllic internal bodily environment (caloric deficit via diet and training) to maximize Clen's effectiveness.

These chemicals/herbs (includes Ephedra) are aids, not shortcuts. Like Johnny V. said there's no magic substance, but there is good science...if you're scientifically-minded.

Best to you.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-10-2011, 09:04 AM

I hated clen when I was on it. Made me feel, just, not good. Wasn't worth it for meee man.

**PK-V** · 10-10-2011, 10:18 AM

the cramps

THE CRAMPS

**gixxerboy1** · 10-10-2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by PK-V

the cramps

THE CRAMPS

i can deal with the shakes. i eat a banana a day. that helps with the cramps for me

**Granovich** · 10-10-2011, 10:52 AM

i did clen 40mcg to 120 mcg was 20% bf went to 7% with good diet and cardio
i think its awesome
but you wont notice it from first 2 weeks. do 2 weeks off then 2 weeks on. and then again do it
second and third time much better results

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-10-2011, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by PK-V

the cramps

THE CRAMPS

Yeah, the cramps weren't too bad for me. It was the morning shakes i'd get.. Did anyone else wake up just feeling, almost sick? Idk, maybe my body just really didn't want to tolerate it.

**dec11** · 10-10-2011, 03:04 PM

clen is overrated crap and only has its fame via the size zero craze with celebs and models.

ive used it a good few times and did nothing more than i ever did without it.

dangerous and not worth it.

**AnabolicJ** · 10-10-2011, 03:27 PM

i have used clen and had good results

**Matt** · 10-10-2011, 03:32 PM

Ive had great results with clen but as Magic say's, you need to create the correct environment to reap its full potential..

**bigpapabuff** · 10-10-2011, 04:24 PM

I have also had very good results with thermogenics like clen or t3, great for cutting weight. I like to use keto with clen and then run it straight through. I get better results that way. I would give the clen more time, your body will definitely respond.

**Ashop** · 10-10-2011, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by fizzaall

Beside the shakiness I dnt feel anything
My cutting progress is normal , am losing fat at a very normal rate
It didn't add anything new to my cutting phase ,

Didn't match it's Internet hype or rating

Thinking about switching to EC stack , how is that compared to Clen ? I also could use an apetite supressant ?

Asking ppl who been on both

I've always liked CLENBUTEROL ,,nice fat loss and nice anti catabolic effect.

**dec11** · 10-10-2011, 06:28 PM

you guys that liked clen , what bf % where you at when you used it? i agree its good for getting rid of that last few stubborn % if you are sub 10%, but for the ave. joe, its a waste of time and risk v benefit isnt worth it imo

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-10-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

you guys that liked clen, what bf % where you at when you used it? i agree its good for getting rid of that last few stubborn % if you are sub 10%, but for the ave. joe, its a waste of time and risk v benefit isnt worth it imo

I agree.

**Soviet-Strength** · 10-10-2011, 09:18 PM

my clen experience has been good, but ive always mixed it up when using it.. like 2 weeks on then 2 off, 10 days on, 7 off, etc. i also love t3 personally

**Bonaparte** · 10-10-2011, 11:13 PM

I think much of Clenbuterol 's lore is from newbies confusing the words "Tren " and "Clen ".

I much prefer EC and 1,3-Dimeth to selective B2 agonists (which make me feel like crap).

**Bulkn** · 10-11-2011, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I think much of Clenbuterol 's lore is from newbies confusing the words "Tren " and "Clen ".

I much prefer EC and 1,3-Dimeth to selective B2 agonists (which make me feel like crap).

You think 1,3 Dimeth is a good fat burner?

**dec11** · 10-11-2011, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

I think much of Clenbuterol 's lore is from newbies confusing the words "Tren " and "Clen ".

I much prefer EC and 1,3-Dimeth to selective B2 agonists (which make me feel like crap).

what is it?

**Bonaparte** · 10-11-2011, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bulkn

You think 1,3 Dimeth is a good fat burner?

It has a great stimulant effect and closely mimicks adrenaline. It also acts as an appetite suppressant and makes me feel amazing.
I've never taken it repeatedly for the purpose of cutting (just preworkout or for a boost at work), but I'm sure it would work great stacked with some caffeine.

Originally Posted by dec11

what is it?

1, 3-dimethylamylamine aka Geranamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine

**dec11** · 10-11-2011, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

It has a great stimulant effect and closely mimicks adrenaline. It also acts as an appetite suppressant and makes me feel amazing.
I've never taken it repeatedly for the purpose of cutting (just preworkout or for a boost at work), but I'm sure it would work great stacked with some caffeine.

1, 3-dimethylamylamine aka Geranamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine

ah, similar to sudafed etc then

**dec11** · 10-11-2011, 01:10 PM

bloody stupid approval message!!!!

**Lemonada8** · 10-12-2011, 09:02 AM

clen , on paper and in studies, seems to be a great cutting drug. I dont have any personal use for it so cant really speak on first hand experience. But its a B2 agonist, so when you work out your HR will go up more than normal due to compensatory mechanisms and if you take enough of it, it will hit the B1 receptors also.

Sounds like you are taking enough, due to the shakes, so how about everything else that would go into cutting? diet and cardio?

**Bonaparte** · 10-12-2011, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

ah, similar to sudafed etc then

No. Unlike pseudoephedrine, it can cross the blood-brain barrier. But it has less effect on the cns than ephedrine. Just try it. It kicks ass. Awesome stim effect with minimal sides and no jitters.

**dec11** · 10-12-2011, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

No. Unlike pseudoephedrine, it can cross the blood-brain barrier. But it has less effect on the cns than ephedrine. Just try it. It kicks ass. Awesome stim effect with minimal sides and no jitters.

thats a plus in my book! what trade names does it go by?

**goinglong** · 10-12-2011, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

you guys that liked clen, what bf % where you at when you used it? i agree its good for getting rid of that last few stubborn % if you are sub 10%, but for the ave. joe, its a waste of time and risk v benefit isnt worth it imo

I agree. I just came off a 7-week cutting cycle and went from 11% to 6% BUT I created a very good environment for that to happen. What I didn't like about clen was that is absolutely killed my high-end cardio. I was good at the 130 HR range but when stepping up to race pace, my 1/2 IM times increased. Since I've been off the cut cycle, my performance is back to normal. Personally, I liked the sides of clen and I kinda miss the shakes because they always made me laugh at myself for having them.

**Schmidty** · 10-12-2011, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

thats a plus in my book! what trade names does it go by?

a lot of supp companys are starting to use it, i know its in oxy elite pro, muscle spike(one of my favorite pre-workouts) and i was told that you can order just the powder in bulk for pretty cheap

**Schmidty** · 10-12-2011, 06:57 PM

as far as clen goes. iv used clen a lot and its always been pretty effective, no more or less then ephedrine if i had to compair the two. deff less side effects with ECA in every way shape and form though. But i nvr let my body fat get over 12% at the very most so that could be why clens effective for me. benadryl is deff bullshit for cleaning receptors to...

**The Bear 79** · 10-12-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

as far as clen goes. iv used clen a lot and its always been pretty effective, no more or less then ephedrine if i had to compair the two. deff less side effects with ECA in every way shape and form though. But i nvr let my body fat get over 12% at the very most so that could be why clens effective for me. benadryl is deff bullshit for cleaning receptors to...

Elaborate please..........

**Schmidty** · 10-12-2011, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Elaborate please..........

i should say for me anyways. anytime iv taken clen more then 2wks at a time and tryed using benadryl to clear the receptor it has not helped keep the clen working so my fat loss would slow down

**The Bear 79** · 10-12-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

i should say for me anyways. anytime iv taken clen more then 2wks at a time and tryed using benadryl to clear the receptor it has not helped keep the clen working so my fat loss would slow down

I had the same effect (slowed fat loss) but the Benadryl def helped, it wont get u back 2 ground zero (for lack of better term) but it does keep the Clen from becoming totally ineffective all 2gether.

**im83931** · 10-12-2011, 08:12 PM

I've had good results with it. I get real bad insomnia but other than that the rest of the sides are minimal with me. Like was said aove though its not a magic pill, I only use it to get those last couple of pounds off. imo its not worth it unless your already hovering around 10%.