Var Cycle and PCT

[jay007]

i was thinking of running a var only cyle, but was wondering what is the minuim and maxium length of such cycle? also what is the max length of a cycle one could run with out PCT?

[RB3232]

Stats?

[jay007]

5'6 , 190lbs, low body fat not sure the exact. last cycle was winnie/var/tbol. hcg evey 3 days 200ml, PCT nov/clomid 50mg 3 weeks

[RB3232]

age?

[jay007]

35, does the age really matter regarding the question?

[hsvcraig]

From what I've heard mate var on it's own stops your body producing testosterone . So youd proly want to throw some small amount of test in with, 250 of sust a week maybe. I loved the pumps on the anavar

[formerly]

I just started a Var only cycle nearly 4 weeks ago. I started at 30mg/ed for the 1st 3 weeks and then went up to 40 this week. I'm going for 6 weeks and then no pct. I will fill you in if I should have.lol

No sides at all that I have noticed so far.

I'm 42 and started at 181 lbs and 17.5% bf. Weighing-in at 173lbs now(3.5 weeks in). Mostly doing judo, boxing and some supplemental strength training.

[RowRow]

I did a var only cycle, first cycle went up to 120mg ed(not that i advise doing so) minimum and maximum with Var are nigh on the same thing it takes 2 weeks for var to kick in in most cases and then gains diminish rapifly after 6 weeks.

Var will shit you down completely in a week give or take so a pct is required, thats just foolhardy to think otherwise.

formerly, you will be "formely able to get an erection" if you carry on with that attitude, var will shut you down like any other gear low sides and low results does not equate to not shutting down your HPTA, 17.5% bf is too high a bf% for gear too tbh.

no need for nolva in your pct btw.

[ottomaddox]

Irresponsible use of anabolic steroids and the fact that you're proud of doing it incorrectly is not a shared view of any members here, unless you are on Trt.



[QUOTE="formerly"]I just started a Var only cycle nearly 4 weeks ago. I started at 30mg/ed for the 1st 3 weeks and then went up to 40 this week. I'm going for 6 weeks and then no pct. I will fill you in if I should have.lol

No sides at all that I have noticed so far.

I'm 42 and started at 181 lbs and 17.5% bf. Weighing-in at 173lbs now(3.5 weeks in). Mostly doing judo, boxing and some supplemental strength training.

[ottomaddox]

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[chuckt12345]

Got no prb with var only cycles

[formerly]

I did a var only cycle, first cycle went up to 120mg ed(not that i advise doing so) minimum and maximum with Var are nigh on the same thing it takes 2 weeks for var to kick in in most cases and then gains diminish rapifly after 6 weeks.

Var will shit you down completely in a week give or take so a pct is required, thats just foolhardy to think otherwise.

formerly, you will be "formely able to get an erection" if you carry on with that attitude, var will shut you down like any other gear low sides and low results does not equate to not shutting down your HPTA, 17.5% bf is too high a bf% for gear too tbh.

no need for nolva in your pct btw.

Hi RowRow. I hear you. I have read all the studies I could find and do see that it does suppress, sometimes quite alot. Also, it seems the vast majority (probabaly 85%) out on the forums agree that pct should be done. And I do seriously appreciate the info out here.

Here's the thing. I recieved my anavar in June and held onto it until I could get some Nolva or Clomid even tho my supplier told my buddy(who got it for me) that I wont need pct.

- So I went up to a supplement shop that is run by a pro-bodybuilder. I asked him if I will need pct with anavar. He said No, not with my intended cycle. I told him I was 41(at the time) and he said maybe do some tribulus or maybe arimedex(??)

- I went to an old friend that used often over the years. He didnt know what anavar was(lol) but did say that 'no matter what, if it works, I will need pct'. Only tribulus! As thats all he ever used after his winny cycles.

- Still flustered as my buddy was gone back home and I had no idea where to get nolva or clomid I called a friend who is the s&c coach for some pro-athletes. He said no pct needed for anavar. Maybe for heavy cycles but not mine. I bothered the hell outta him cause I wanted to be sure(Imma newlywed). He said that doing clomid or nolva would only be more pills that I dont need and do more harm than good.

- old wrestling buddy of mine. He is same age as me and he uses anavar often. Short simple cycles like mine. He is a big drinker and a huge pothead. He never uses pct and claims he is fine. Didnt even know what pct was.lol

- I occasionally pop into an mma club to train with some buddies. He is a pro and frequent user thru his life. I asked him whats anavar like? He asked why. I told him I have some and he just said, 'perfect'.lol He (and his buddy) said no pct needed. They have done numerous cycles and have never done any pct with anavar. I bugged the sht outta him too(he's a lifelong friend) and he said that I will feel shtty for a week or 2 after I come off and that it is mostly psychological. He is also near my age and has used heavy stuff on and off over the years.

Sry if it sounds like I am carrying an attitude. I dont mean to. I respect this stuff and what you guys say. Its just that when I am holding onto some anavar and all my friends are saying that you dont need pct and that they didnt(I flew thru alot of acid back in the day with some of these guys,lol) it sounds pretty convincing.

re: erections. If it affects some but not others it makes me wonder if and when the willy doesnt come to, maybe some guys are just hitting the panic button. I mean, why would it affect some and not others. Does tren or d-bol affect only some but not others with libido nd no pct? Anavar sounds like it has been used for years often with the belief that no pct was needed. It seems like the clinical news that it supprsses is fairly recent. Where are all the impotent guys that have used anavar w/o pct. Certainly if I did and went impotent then I think I would let it be known on the net outta goodwill. Of the few guys that I know, none use pct, they're fine.

Supplier, pro-bodybuilder, S&C coach, former heavy using friend, older wrestling buddy, mma friend and his buddy... thats 7 I asked and all 7 said no need for nolva or clomid. 7/7. If thats what the 1st 7 said in real life about anavar where are the others? The affected ones or the ones who even say that pct is necessary.

Thanks.

p.s. If I did have some nolva, I would prolly do it. Just from what you guys say. I just dont have any.

p.p.s Going back down to 30mg/ed.lol

[RowRow]

All I can say is Anava will shut you down wether you or your friends believe it or not. For years people thought primo and proviron didn't shut you down.

You may not have libido issues, with no pct but then again you may do.

Adex and tribulus is not a pct.

I don't base my cycles off bro science but anecdotal scientific evidence.

Do what you wish. I'm out. Peace

[scooter688]

I have done my research and was thinking about doing a 6 to 8 week cycle of Anavar at 40mg ED, and Proviron 25-50mg ED. I was thinking Clomid and Nolvadex combined for PCT

I am hesitant to try steroids because although i have never tried steroids I do have a small case of Gyno from puberty. I chose those steroids because they do not aromatize and i want to avoid making the problem any worse. I can't afford the surgery should the gyno get any worse (nickle sized lumps currently).

Will there be any risk of gyno both during the cycle and during PCT?

I'm 24, 205lbs, and approx 10-11 percent BF. Not looking for any big gains. I want to use Anavar to help heal an injury as research ive read shows it increases collagen synthesis, and is used in treatment of burn victims.

Thank for the help guys.

[longhorn1]

anavar will shut you down and its bullsh!t that people or profiles say it wont. i did an anavar only cycle in july, 30mgs ed. first week great,2nd, erections were weak and almost none existant. nuts ached too(as they were shrinking) got a little stronger,harder and you could start to see a little fatloss. after 2 weeks i felt sh!tty and got test levels checked. i went from 420ng(mid april) to 100ng(mid july). i dont know what man can(i couldnt) function like a man off 100ng of test. i said f this and got on some HCGenerate for 30 days to help with a boost, felt like i was getting back to normal then it felt like everything crashed and i felt like more sh!t. back to the dr for bloodwork, now low test and high estrogen(295pg). now about 2 months later just starting to feel better and nat test is back up to 400 but had to get some Adex for the high estrogen. do what you want as its your body, but try to do things right. its a good idea like members say and add test(prop) to the cycle and a good pct after or hcg while on. i thought i knew enough about this stuff, but obviousley i was wrong. i did not want to go the test route as im prone for hairloss

[formerly]

fair enuff.lol that did it for me. Feel fine now but dont even want to get there.lol

Going off at 4 weeks. Is there anything else I can do to help test recovery without nolva or clomid?

Thanks.

[kamilo1975]

anavar will shut you down and its bullsh!t that people or profiles say it wont. i did an anavar only cycle in july, 30mgs ed. first week great,2nd, erections were weak and almost none existant. nuts ached too(as they were shrinking) got a little stronger,harder and you could start to see a little fatloss. after 2 weeks i felt sh!tty and got test levels checked. i went from 420ng(mid april) to 100ng(mid july). i dont know what man can(i couldnt) function like a man off 100ng of test. i said f this and got on some HCGenerate for 30 days to help with a boost, felt like i was getting back to normal then it felt like everything crashed and i felt like more sh!t. back to the dr for bloodwork, now low test and high estrogen(295pg). now about 2 months later just starting to feel better and nat test is back up to 400 but had to get some Adex for the high estrogen. do what you want as its your body, but try to do things right. its a good idea like members say and add test(prop) to the cycle and a good pct after or hcg while on. i thought i knew enough about this stuff, but obviousley i was wrong. i did not want to go the test route as im prone for hairloss

been on var only cycle now for five weeks, and no issues with errections. i think that the people that have problems must have already low test levels.

[jay007]

quick question is is better to take 50mgs at opnce or split it up to 25mgs twice a day?