Steroids at 19

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:46 AM

I'm 19, I've read the stickies and everything but I'd really like to know exactly how bad one cycle of Test-E would mess me up hormonally if I were to do 500mg a week with a PCT with nolva?

**marcus300** · 10-14-2011, 01:50 AM

Your natural testosterone hasn't fully developed yet and by shutting it down it could never reach its peak, you could suffer limp dick, no sex drive, weight loss, depression, mood swings shrunken testicles to name a small few. If you cant gain weight and size at your age with natural test going on cycle would be a waste of time anyway because your diet cant support any new tissue. Do not cycle at 19yrs old it will be a big mistake, you have no idea what your doing or what these compounds can do to someone your age so take the advice and go to the diet section and learn how to eat correctly.

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:51 AM

http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img...1nyxu1819.jpeg
Thats me now, i'm 5'8, i haven't grown an inch in the past year i actually shrank 1/4th of an inch so premature fusion of growth plates isn't really an issue here

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:53 AM

all from one cycle of test-e? even if i did a good pct to kick start it again?

**marcus300** · 10-14-2011, 01:59 AM

yes even after one cycle. Your shutting down a system whats not fully developed. The facts are you dont need steroids at your age use your natural test otherwise using steroids at such a young age could have the oppersite effect your looking for.

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 02:02 AM

How about using a pro hormone like ostarine?

**marcus300** · 10-14-2011, 02:04 AM

No they can still effect your natural testosterone . You dont need steroids you need to sort your diet out to see further gains.

**AnabolicJ** · 10-14-2011, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

No they can still effect your natural testosterone. You dont need steroids you need to sort your diet out to see further gains.

ill second that

**songdog** · 10-14-2011, 05:06 AM

Anything that will shut you down is NO good for you.Listen to Marcus he has been in the game a long time.

**ddp2727** · 10-14-2011, 05:55 AM

Yea bro. Looking at your pictures says you are really eating a maintenance diet, not a growth diet, also how long are you sleeping a night?

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:03 PM

I'm eating 3 solid meals a day sometimes 4 if i get chipotle, sleep hasn't been great since I've started college but I'll normally get ~8 hours a night.
I weigh 180 now I was 156 this time last year

**The Bear 79** · 10-14-2011, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by diablojoe

i'm eating 3 solid meals a day sometimes 4 if i get chipotle, sleep hasn't been great since i've started college but i'll normally get ~8 hours a night.
I weigh 180 now i was 156 this time last year

ha!!!!!

**The Bear 79** · 10-14-2011, 01:08 PM

Most of us here r eating 6 - 10 meals a day bro. If u need help figuring how or wut 2 eat, head over 2 the diet section.

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:08 PM

Thats along with a protein shake post workout and pre bed. I don't eat light meals each meal more than 1k calories

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:08 PM

6-10 small meals, i'd rather eat 4 big meals though

**The Bear 79** · 10-14-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by diablojoe

6-10 small meals, i'd rather eat 4 big meals though

Cant speak 4 any1 else, but 4 of my 7 meals a day r large meals, sometimes 5. U may gain easier, IDK, but I certain ur current intake in insufficient.

**The Bear 79** · 10-14-2011, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by diablojoe

6-10 small meals, i'd rather eat 4 big meals though

1 of the reasons behind eating so often rather then ALL @ once is because ur body needs certain nutrients every 3 - 4 hrs throughout the day. Opinions differ on fat loss effects between these diets though.

**xelnaga** · 10-14-2011, 01:20 PM

Damn... This talking younger members out of steroids gets old really fast. I commend the vets on not exploding every time this crap gets posted.

**diablojoe** · 10-14-2011, 01:26 PM

I just don't understand how people like arnold took steroids at 17 and turned out fine and even kept growing after steroid use and I know people that have taken steroids at 17 and 18 without any negative side effects. Is there anything I'd be able to take that would help me but not mess me up?

**The Bear 79** · 10-14-2011, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by diablojoe

I just don't understand how people like arnold took steroids at 17 and turned out fine and even kept growing after steroid use and I know people that have taken steroids at 17 and 18 without any negative side effects. Is there anything I'd be able to take that would help me but not mess me up?

FOOD. And how do u know those guys aren't messed up? Just wait a while & c who ends up on TRT, HRT & / or ends up with ED. This shouldn't b a difficult decision, 5 or 6 yrs is just a sliver of ur life compared 2 a lifetime of regret & health problems.

**JohnnyB11** · 10-14-2011, 03:36 PM

I was talking to an ex international speed skater last night in a GNC and he told me that a cycle of Test E 400 MG/week with a proper PCT (have it on hand during the cycle just incase of signs of gyno as some people are more prone to it) would not have any long term effect as he was experienced with gear. He also went on to say that being that you maintained a high calorie diet of 6-8 meals a day, gains made from the cycle could be maintained for the most part. I am not necessarily disagreeing with the opinions of the experienced members such as "The Bear 79", but I am just slightly confused as to why there is sometimes mixed views on the subject. I personally am 22 years old and would like to do a cycle at some point in my life but I don't know when to do so yet. I have personally seen friends and acquaintances try a cycle and they gained a good 20 lbs without noticing any side effects. My question is... do the more experienced members try to talk the younger guys out of cycles because they will get amazing results (being that proper nutrition is in place) and then get hooked and do many, many cycles which then in return will be hard on their body? What if someone was disciplined enough to just do one cycle to get a bit of an edge? However, i will probably wait until I am 24-25 as that seems to be the consensus around here. Again, this post was not meant to offend anyone, more so just trying to understand things a little bit better. Thanks.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-14-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB11

I was talking to an ex international speed skater last night in a GNC and he told me that a cycle of Test E 400 MG/week with a proper PCT (have it on hand during the cycle just incase of signs of gyno as some people are more prone to it) would not have any long term effect as he was experienced with gear. He also went on to say that being that you maintained a high calorie diet of 6-8 meals a day, gains made from the cycle could be maintained for the most part. I am not necessarily disagreeing with the opinions of the experienced members such as "The Bear 79", but I am just slightly confused as to why there is sometimes mixed views on the subject. I personally am 22 years old and would like to do a cycle at some point in my life but I don't know when to do so yet. I have personally seen friends and acquaintances try a cycle and they gained a good 20 lbs without noticing any side effects. My question is... do the more experienced members try to talk the younger guys out of cycles because they will get amazing results (being that proper nutrition is in place) and then get hooked and do many, many cycles which then in return will be hard on their body? What if someone was disciplined enough to just do one cycle to get a bit of an edge? However, i will probably wait until I am 24-25 as that seems to be the consensus around here. Again, this post was not meant to offend anyone, more so just trying to understand things a little bit better. Thanks.

ill say this, anyone that gaines 20 lbs on a cycle had no buissness touching aas....those that approche this responsibly spend years building up a solid base of muscle from which to build on wich includes learning how to diet for you specific goals...it seems all you young guys just want to jump on the aas bandwagon before doing any of this and thats why they see "amazing" gains cus they barely looked like they steped in a gym so any muscle thats gained would seem "amazing"...the problem is that if you dont know how to eat to keep those gains(which most kids dont) they soon lose it after they stop there cycle...hence why most peeps never cycle only once...

**Shol'va** · 10-14-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by diablojoe

I just don't understand how people like arnold took steroids at 17 and turned out fine and even kept growing after steroid use and I know people that have taken steroids at 17 and 18 without any negative side effects. Is there anything I'd be able to take that would help me but not mess me up?

They got Lucky. It's a chance when doing it at your age or any age for that matter and in the end it's up to you. It's your body your decision. With that said, it is up to sites like this to warn you of all the possible side effects and long term effects that could happen by doing steroids so young. Just read up all you can so you can make an informed decision. And heed warnings of those here who also did them young and now are taking weekly TRT shots and cialis to function both in and out of bed. Try everything you can to reach your goals without going that route and if you can do it you will have the assurance of knowing you didn't need them after all. Plus you have to look at the expense and source of getting them. Lots of guys get ripped off by certain sources. And then at 19 you will probably have a bad case of acne when doing them as it intensifies oil gland production. And you may need an AI to keep you man boobs from swelling. and, and, and,.......Just read up on all the possible side effects. and if you still want to do them, and you get sides, look on this site as there are others who will be in your same situation. I agree you should wait till around 24 to attempt them, but many your age and younger won't wait, and I understand that as well wanting to look great and wanting it now and as fast as possible. But it comes with risk so be prepared and informed.