Steroid questions regarding younger users

[neverenough5986]

Well, this is my first post on this site guys so let me give this a shot. I’ll start by jumping right in it. Why does age matter necessarily when considering steroids ? I understand that your body is full of testosterone and your body is going through many hormonal changes during your teen years and even early 20’s. Why does it matter if your body is full of testosterone? I understand that many think it doesn’t make sense to put synthetic substances in your body when you can naturally achieve muscle growth more than you will ever be able to again during this age range, but still steroids will aid in growth beyond that of teenage hormones. If done properly and under close supervision of an endocrinologist, why should it be more detrimental for me, a 20 year old, to use steroids than a 26 year old? My diet is spot on and I have lifted religiously, and more importantly intelligently and aggressively, for 5 solid years. I am not a 6’2’’ teen weighing 175 pounds looking for a way to put on mass when clearly eating some damn food and throwing up some heavy ass weight would do the trick. I am currently 6’ and weigh 225 at about 10% body fat. I squat 450, deadlift 450, and bench 320. I don’t think growth plates closing is an issue for me, I am taller than average for my family and do not intend or want to get any taller. I realize all the risks associated with steroid use and feel I have a good understanding on how to confront any issues before they occur and counteract any that may still arise even with proper planning. I have done a lot of research into this subject and do not take steroids lightly at all. If any reasons with legitimate and intelligent bases can be given as to why my age is an issue, I would greatly appreciate hearing them.
Now onto what, if I do indeed take the plunge, I am looking into. I think prohomones for the most part are a load of shit. I have friends that have taken it for years, and even known some people that have taken it without a PCT and somehow, to my knowledge, turned out fine. Although I’m sure if they got some blood work done they may find they are very far from fine. I think the relatively safest path to go down would of course be injectibles. I have looked into a lot of different compounds and steroids, but from what I’ve come to find is that deca along with test enanathate seem to be the most tried and true steroid with a low side to results ratio. PCT is the subject that I would like some input in from you guys. I’d use nolvadex or clomid to counteract the aromatization of the test e, but what about the deca? Would a SERM be effective to counteract Deca? From my understanding deca has little influence on ones estrogen, but on their progesterone, which I would assume a selective ESTROGEN receptor modulator would have little to no effect on. So what method would an individual use to offset the effects of Deca? I would rather not suffer from the wrath of deca shutdown due to overlooking an aspect of PCT. Another question I’d like answered is the cycling method called slingshoting? Ronnie Rowland post beneath this one was very interesting, but I find it a little scary. I have always been told that time on=time off ATLEAST, and ONLY if all sides have been resolved. His post made sense, but I don’t know if would be a very safe approach. Any comments on that subject would also be interesting to hear about.
I appreciate whoever takes the time to read this and hope you guys can give me some useful insight and advice. I realize I’m only 20, so all of your guys real life experience with this subject matter is really helpful.

[gixxerboy1]

because even if you are done growing height wise, Your endocrine system isnt fully developed. So shutting it down can cause damage to it. So it may never function the way it is supposed to giving you long term problems.

BTW, can you edit your post and put some paragraphs. It was hard as hell to read,

[marcus300]

This may be of interest to read

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus