Looking for experienced advice on the best way to cycle off.

[c2_cannon]

Hey Guys,
I'm about 8-9 weeks in a 12 week tren cycle of:

350mg Tren Acetate
350mg Test Prop
25mg daily T3 last week or so
My last bottle of Tren is a blend that has also Test Prop and Masteron so my last 20 days will be

350mg Tren Acetate
350mg Test Prop
350mg Masteron
25 mg T3 daily

I was thinking of getting a few bottles of primo to solidify gains and just rolling into that at or around my last tren/prop shot and first clomid dose and stay on primo through full pct with clomid not sure though and am also aware that primo usually needs test as a base... but then again I want an anabolic crutch while I bring the boys back. What do ya'll think?

I have on hand also about 90 25mg winstrol tabs and 50 clomid

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Your stats are a pre-req to advice.

[gixxerboy1]

you cant be on while you are on pct.
Also if you gained muscle you gained muscle. You dont need to add primo to solidify your gains.

[dec11]

do not run tren that long, it had elevated my liver and kidney values so far that my doctor said she would have considered them well into the danger zone. this was after only 5wks in on 350mg pw.

what age are you and whats your cycle and training history?

i dont see how primo will 'solidify'

[hankdiesel]

dec 11, that is interesting about your liver and kidney values. I've never heard that before after only 5 weeks. Did they go back into normal range quickly after you stopped?

[c2_cannon]

Im 24 5'10'' 202lbs 15-18%bf first cycle

[RowRow]

Thats one hell of an irresponsible first cycle. You may well pay for it later.

But if your in a pickle better to solve it then shout at you so;
Primo won't solidify gains, it simply is a non aromatising compound that can burn fat, Hardening only means in the context of dropping water not making the muscle more willing to stick around.
If you run an "anabolic crutch" as you so eloquently put it you are not in PCT you are simply on whilst dosing clomid aswell.

Don't stick any additional compounds to the veritable quagmire you are calling your first cycle.

[c2_cannon]

RowRow, really? Why do you say that? And what do you recommend?

[AnabolicJ]

to much compounds for a first cycle in my eyes

[c2_cannon]

Should I use my last 16ml to slowly dose off or run .5 ml total daily for 32 days then clomid?

[RowRow]

RowRow, really? Why do you say that? And what do you recommend?

Well because your running 3 compounds already including tren . Your then contemplating adding in an additional 2. the reason it is widely advised to add one compound per cycle is to assess how you respond to each compound in terms of mental and physical sides, you will be none the wiser as to which cause yours if they arise.

I'd recommend test only for a first cycle
600mg ew 1-12 weeks with .5mg adex eod
and then a clomid and aromasin pct.

[c2_cannon]

I mean 350mg week then 300,250,200,150,75,0 or 350mg week

[c2_cannon]

rowrow, understood. however, Im mid cycle. How do you recommend I come off?

[RowRow]

ooooh okay. just run the rest of your cycle, no need for taper, dosages aren't high enough to worry, then start pct a couple of days after last shot

[dec11]

dec 11, that is interesting about your liver and kidney values. I've never heard that before after only 5 weeks. Did they go back into normal range quickly after you stopped?

tested again last week, im just on 150mg pw test trt and everything is back to normal. the cycle was in may/jun and its enough to put me off using tren ever again tbh

[Granovich]

dec11
tren is baaaaaaaad

[Arnold jr]

Run your PCT with PCT meds only....you're trying to stimulate test production and normalize and running a steroid with your PCT defeats this purpose.

If it were my cycle I'd start the PCT about 3 days after my last steroid dosing based on the steroids you're using. A simple Nolvadex or Clomid run for 4-5wks would probably suffice but 10 days of hCG prior to that 4-5wk course wouldn't be a bad idea either.