How safe are UGL's ?

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 04:31 PM

I've been doing a lot if reading on UGL's and have been hearing a lot of buzz on high metal content in gear being produced in UGL's. For me this is a bit of a problem cause my source's gear comes from UGL. ( please no PM's asking for sources) is there some kind of test that I can have done to find levels if any for metal? (name of test and kind of place that would perform test)

Or am I being a bit too paranoid?

**gixxerboy1** · 10-17-2011, 04:34 PM

I've never heard that.
I'm not aware of any test for that.
UGL's are typically safe if you deal with a reputable one

**Sicko** · 10-17-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by trix1000

I've been doing a lot if reading on UGL's and have been hearing a lot of buzz on high metal content in gear being produced in UGL's. For me this is a bit of a problem cause my source's gear comes from UGL. ( please no PM's asking for sources) is there some kind of test that I can have done to find levels if any for metal? (name of test and kind of place that would perform test)

Or am I being a bit too paranoid?

Purity/sterile is always a concern with UGL's but that is why you dont get gear from any old tom dick or harry..
You should know and trust your source before doing business with him. IMO...

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-17-2011, 04:41 PM

Do you know other people who are running gear from the UGL your source gives? If they seem alright, it should indicate to you that you might be fine as well.

**dec11** · 10-17-2011, 04:51 PM

you'll never know

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sicko

Purity/sterile is always a concern with UGL's but that is why you dont get gear from any old tom dick or harry..
You should know and trust your source before doing business with him. IMO...

I can absolutely trust my source he's the one that insisted I join these forums and do my research before I make any final decisions and he is a long time family friend. But I know that most of the gear he gives out is from an UGL. I think the only thing he has that's pharm is the testE and a few oral supplies.

**dec11** · 10-17-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by trix1000

I can absolutely trust my source he's the one that insisted I join these forums and do my research before I make any final decisions and he is a long time family friend. But I know that most of the gear he gives out is from an UGL. I think the only thing he has that's pharm is the testE and a few oral supplies.

always go pharm if you can get it, thats my advice, just cos your source is legit doesnt make each individual vial from a UGL legit or safe

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Do you know other people who are running gear from the UGL your source gives? If they seem alright, it should indicate to you that you might be fine as well.

I do know people that run his stuff and all G2G but from what I understand you wouldn't realize that you have metal in your system till it's ultimately way to late. Now I heard that ALOT of places that purchase the powders to process gear have the metal in it and that the filters don't capture it when being put into the vials & that the metal particles are to fine to be caught by the filters. Not sure if any of it's true. Or if it's just people putting out scare tactics to boost their own sales.

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

always go pharm if you can get it, thats my advice, just cos your source is legit doesnt make each individual vial from a UGL legit or safe

That's where my concern comes in. That's why I posted the question. Thx evry1

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-17-2011, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by trix1000

I do know people that run his stuff and all G2G but from what I understand you wouldn't realize that you have metal in your system till it's ultimately way to late. Now I heard that ALOT of places that purchase the powders to process gear have the metal in it and that the filters don't capture it when being put into the vials being that the metal particles are to fine to be caught by the filters. Not sure if any of it's true. Or if it's just people putting out scare tactics to boost their own sales.

There is always a risk, when you're dealing with black market gear. Even stuff you think is Pharmaceutical grade gear can turn out to be a well faked product. But I do think if the majority of product was bad, you'd have more personal horror stories among the vets in here.

**RowRow** · 10-17-2011, 05:08 PM

If you get a vial tested and it's clear there is nothing to say other will be. Just use a reputable UGL. a quick google search will tell you that.

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by RowRow

If you get a vial tested and it's clear there is nothing to say other will be. Just use a reputable UGL. a quick google search will tell you that.

Well every search and review of said lab was positive people actually rave about this lab. (no PM's for sources)
Just wanted to see if anyone else has read anything about this metal stuff in UGL's but I guess I'll just keep reading cause I'm not ready to pin anyways. So I have some time. >newbie<

**RowRow** · 10-17-2011, 05:24 PM

I have read of it, the problem is no labs as far as I'm aware were specified to contain the heavy metals so you can't call which UGL is a no go. :/

**gixxerboy1** · 10-17-2011, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by trix1000

I do know people that run his stuff and all G2G but from what I understand you wouldn't realize that you have metal in your system till it's ultimately way to late. Now I heard that ALOT of places that purchase the powders to process gear have the metal in it and that the filters don't capture it when being put into the vials & that the metal particles are to fine to be caught by the filters. Not sure if any of it's true. Or if it's just people putting out scare tactics to boost their own sales.

where did you read this. I'm a member on a few boards and been around for a while and this is the first time i heard this claim

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

where did you read this. I'm a member on a few boards and been around for a while and this is the first time i heard this claim

Well I was told this after I told some1 that the gear i was to be pinning was from an UGL & they proceeded to tell me about this. At this point I started to try and find some stories on the net, but with no luck. So as I am also a member on a few forums I started to read stickies and threads in regards to labs and gear from forums that i troll for different views and theories on the subjects that interest me.
I'm not sure if I can state which forum I read it on. But I figured since I spend a majority of my time posting here and reading from all forums, I would see what kind, if any- info that could be found here.
Just wanted to see if claims where true or if someone's is trying to boost sales.

**RowRow** · 10-17-2011, 06:34 PM

I know there is an article on Muscular Developments site. That's talks about it I think. Not sure if I was allowed to post that or not.

**gixxerboy1** · 10-17-2011, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by trix1000

Well I was told this after I told some1 that the gear i was to be pinning was from an UGL & they proceeded to tell me about this. At this point I started to try and find some stories on the net, but with no luck. So as I am also a member on a few forums I started to read stickies and threads in regards to labs and gear from forums that i troll for different views and theories on the subjects that interest me.
I'm not sure if I can state which forum I read it on. But I figured since I spend a majority of my time posting here and reading from all forums, I would see what kind, if any- info that could be found here.
Just wanted to see if claims where true or if someone's is trying to boost sales.

if you dont mind pm me the sites

**Ashop** · 10-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

I've never heard that.
I'm not aware of any test for that.
UGL's are typically safe if you deal with a reputable one

As always only use trusted/reputable suppliers and you will be fine.

**Shol'va** · 10-17-2011, 07:10 PM

Mine came from CVS

**dec11** · 10-17-2011, 07:19 PM

i used a 'reputable' lab last summer, it was a vial of fvcking oil. at tht time i was on an unsupervised trt and couldnt get my usual pharm test so i opted for the UGL out of necessity. i had just come off a 500mg test e and 350mg tren a cycle and was dropping to the trt dose.

i crashed severely approx 3wks later, lost a tonne of weight, was depressed, didnt want to train etc. i managed to get some organon sust and within afew days i was feeling much better. just as a test i injected 4ml out of that UGL vial to see if there was actually anything in it, nada, not a fvckin sausage.

some of these labs will put out afew good batches and rope ppl in and then they start the big con with under dosed (if anything in at all) crap. once they've made a killing they'll start all over again under a diff name

**trix1000** · 10-17-2011, 08:06 PM

some of these labs will put out afew good batches and rope ppl in and then they start the big con with under dosed (if anything in at all) crap. once they've made a killing they'll start all over again under a diff name @dec11

as far as me getting scammed, not worried this guy wouldn't steer me wrong He don't even want to sell me gear cause him and my Sis are good friends. No he ain't tapping my Sis -she plays for the other team. But he recommended that I join here (forums) for use of gear advice and cycle info. He don't want my Sis losing it on him so he don't want to answer any of my questions. I can't say I blame him. (sister Is a few fries short of a happy meal)

**Gi812Many** · 10-17-2011, 09:51 PM

Again like so many guys are saying, UGL is a hit - miss....This entire game is a hit and miss if you are buying from internet sources which is the vast majority. Only other option is getting your own compound and suspending your own product. Only way to be a 100% sure. Not very hard to mix product, copy a label from a pharmacy grade product and sell it as pharm grade which so many people are doing. I only use UGL's and always have, im just one of the lucky ones...all about who you know

**gixxerboy1** · 10-17-2011, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Mine came from CVS

its all fake

**dec11** · 10-17-2011, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

its all fake

lmao

**user12345** · 10-18-2011, 04:01 AM

Never buy gear from a UGL. Buy your stuff legally right here in the US. If you don't know how to do that, keep reading.

**PK-V** · 10-18-2011, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by RowRow

I know there is an article on Muscular Developments site. That's talks about it I think. Not sure if I was allowed to post that or not.

Yep it's called "Heavy metal gear"

**dec11** · 10-18-2011, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by user12345

Never buy gear from a UGL. Buy your stuff legally right here in the US. If you don't know how to do that, keep reading.

you are starting to become very obvious

**user12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

you are starting to become very obvious

obvious? about real gear?

**chuckt12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

you are starting to become very obvious

yup.

**gixxerboy1** · 10-18-2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by user12345

obvious? about real gear?

it sure looks like you have an ajenda

**user12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:42 AM

I don't care if it looks like I have an a"g"enda. I don't recommend anyone use a UGL. Agree or disagree? UGL's can fake gear. Pharmacies here in the US don't.

What if I did have an agenda? Would that be ok on this forum? You guys are giving me some good ideas here.

**chuckt12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by user12345

I don't care if it looks like I have an a"g"enda. I don't recommend anyone use a UGL. Agree or disagree? UGL's can fake gear. Pharmacies here in the US don't.

What if I did have an agenda? Would that be ok on this forum? You guys are giving me some good ideas here.

it would be common sense to get pharm grade over UGL,, but here in the US you cant go in to walgreens and pick up AAS in the fkn cold med isle

**user12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:47 AM

here in the US, you can get pharm grade gear as easy as walgreens if you know where to get it.

**user12345** · 10-18-2011, 08:48 AM

I need to check the rules.

Please do read the rules.....Matt

**gixxerboy1** · 10-18-2011, 09:08 AM

User edit your post. This is why i looks like you have an agenda and are up to something,
This isnt a source board.

**chuckt12345** · 10-18-2011, 09:10 AM

sweet,, walgreen referrals

**gixxerboy1** · 10-18-2011, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

sweet,, walgreen referrals

i like cvs myself.

**trix1000** · 10-18-2011, 09:51 AM

being That I am going to a dr for blood work before I do all this, do you think I should just have the doc test my natty t-level? My old ass should qualify right lol I'm 36

**Gi812Many** · 10-18-2011, 10:05 AM

I don't care if it looks like I have an a"g"enda. I don't recommend anyone use a UGL. Agree or disagree? UGL's can fake gear. Pharmacies here in the US don't.

Plenty of compound pharmacies ripping people off....One just got shut down here in Florida. Although the retards were sending stuff overseas.

**Fetch** · 10-18-2011, 10:06 AM

There are some tests you could run to determine what is in the oil. You would need a decent background in Organic Chemistry and access to at least a University level lab. Aside from that, I don't know of any labs you could send it to to get it tested for you... though i've never heard of this problem either.

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