Pin sizes

**applehead23** · 10-18-2011, 05:02 AM

I have all the prices in place for my next cycle except the pins. It's my first time injecting so I'm still a bit confused on what to buy. Could anyone help out?

23-24g to inject?

18-19g to draw with?

Should I go with 1 1/2 inch for all? Or 1 inch?

I will need about 25 of each kind for a 12 week cycle right?

I have spent so much time researching everything else, I kind of neglected this area.

Is it tough to inject yourself in the glutes? Is it recommended for a first timer?

Thanks

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 05:36 AM

What's your stats? Proposed cycle? Where do you plan on injecting?

**applehead23** · 10-18-2011, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by boxa06

What's your stats? Proposed cycle? Where do you plan on injecting?

6'2, 223 lbs, aprox 12 % bf.

Going to run test e at 500 mg for 12 weeks or 400 mg for 16 weeks. Can't decide. First time injecting. Around 5 or 6 oral cycles. Been lifting over 10 years. Know how to train and eat right.

Wasn't too sure where I was going to inject, is it possible to pin yourself in the glutes? Possibly quads?

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 06:43 AM

I use 23g, 1 1/4inch or 1 1/2inch for my glutes and 23g 1inch for my legs and shoulders. To draw either 18g or 19g is fine.

I find quads and shoulders to be the easiest to inject. Also you may want to get some extra needles just incase you drop one or it comes into contact with something none sterile.

**applehead23** · 10-18-2011, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by boxa06

I use 23g, 1 1/4inch or 1 1/2inch for my glutes and 23g 1inch for my legs and shoulders. To draw either 18g or 19g is fine.

I find quads and shoulders to be the easiest to inject. Also you may want to get some extra needles just incase you drop one or it comes into contact with something none sterile.

Ok. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it. So pinning in the glutes yourself is tough?

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by applehead23

Ok. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it. So pinning in the glutes yourself is tough?

No problems!

I just found it akward to aspirate the syringe but that's just me. I will still use my glutes but just thought I would share my opinion. Quads are my favorite!

**applehead23** · 10-18-2011, 06:58 AM

Thanks man

**misc151** · 10-18-2011, 06:58 AM

I use 23 gauge 1.5 inch, I never change the needle after drawing (makes no different for me). I inject my glute, just do it in front of the mirror

**applehead23** · 10-18-2011, 07:44 AM

Actually, one last question, hope this is permitted, but what's the best place to get'em online?

**TheClinch** · 10-18-2011, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by applehead23

Actually, one last question, hope this is permitted, but what's the best place to get'em online?

NOT PERMITTED! read the forum rules

**Times Roman** · 10-18-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by applehead23

Actually, one last question, hope this is permitted, but what's the best place to get'em online?

^ agree with the gent above me. Can't endorse off forum products/gear. It's a liability question. Some of this you'll have to check out on your own... just google it

**applehead23** · 10-19-2011, 07:09 AM

When purchasing, does someone buy twice the needles as to syringes, bc u need two needles for every one syringe right?

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-19-2011, 07:12 AM

I buy a 100 at a time just cause their so dang cheep. Also, I can have them around for future cycles, 100 of 23g 1inch and 100 18 g..Of coarse thats a lot, but like I said, their cheap.

**applehead23** · 10-19-2011, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder

I buy a 100 at a time just cause their so dang cheep. Also, I can have them around for future cycles, 100 of 23g 1inch and 100 18 g..Of coarse thats a lot, but like I said, their cheap.

U buy 100 of the entire syringe and needle?

**boxa06** · 10-19-2011, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder;5***715

I buy a 100 at a time just cause their so dang cheep. Also, I can have them around for future cycles, 100 of 23g 1inch and 100 18 g..Of coarse thats a lot, but like I said, their cheap.

When I go I just get a box of each. 23's, 19's and syringes.

**jasc** · 10-19-2011, 08:04 AM

I use 23g 1" for all sites, works great for low bf...
Quads n glutes are great sites, quads are completely painless in my experience

You may be able to get away with using the same needle to draw/inject. I originally switched but found that using the same made absolutely no difference pain-wise.

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**user12345** · 10-20-2011, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by jasc;5***739

You may be able to get away with using the same needle to draw/inject. I originally switched but found that using the same made absolutely no difference pain-wise.

Absolutley not! You should be banned for recommending this! Do NOT ever re-use a needle. This can cause an infection.

**auswest** · 10-20-2011, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by user12345

Absolutley not! You should be banned for recommending this! Do NOT ever re-use a needle. This can cause an infection.

He was implying u can draw from a sterile vial and inject into a sterile site with the same needle there is nothing wrong with that , as he mentioned it just dulls the needle abit..... Cant see an issue here.

**user12345** · 10-20-2011, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by auswest

He was implying u can draw from a sterile vial and inject into a sterile site with the same needle there is nothing wrong with that , as he mentioned it just dulls the needle abit..... Cant see an issue here.

No he wasn't. He was talking about drawing and injecting into himself.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-20-2011, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by user12345

Absolutley not! You should be banned for recommending this! Do NOT ever re-use a needle. This can cause an infection.

Why should he be banned for recommending this? It's the users choice rather or not they want to switch out the needle. I myself always switch, but I know tons of people who don't. Of coarse there is a risk of causing infection if you don't switch, but thats the users choice.

**user12345** · 10-20-2011, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder

Why should he be banned for recommending this? It's the users choice rather or not they want to switch out the needle. I myself always switch, but I know tons of people who don't. Of coarse there is a risk of causing infection if you don't switch, but thats the users choice.

He should not be recommending this because it increase the likelihood of an infection. I don't care aobut the dull thing, though that is another reason not to recommend this.

**xelnaga** · 10-19-2011, 08:21 AM

My doc. has a take a pin give a pin box in the exam room. Usually they are red.

**misc151** · 10-19-2011, 10:17 AM

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**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-19-2011, 11:13 AM

Just google it man, you'll find a million different sites.

**Ashop** · 10-19-2011, 03:15 PM

23-25 gauge to inject.
1" for delts,biceps,delts
1.5" for glutes
20g to draw with.

**user12345** · 10-20-2011, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by applehead23

23-24g to inject?

I've injected test with up to 25.5g

Originally Posted by applehead23

18-19g to draw with?

Yes

Originally Posted by applehead23

Should I go with 1 1/2 inch for all? Or 1 inch?

Depends where you are injecting.

Originally Posted by applehead23

I will need about 25 of each kind for a 12 week cycle right?

That should do. I prefer to inject once per week. Of course, always buy extra than needed becuase something could go wrong. You may need to use your injection needle twice. You could stick in a vein or have severe injection pain and have to re-stick.

Originally Posted by applehead23

Is it tough to inject yourself in the glutes? Is it recommended for a first timer?

If you are a first timer, I recommend having someone experience (juicer or nurse) inject you. I recommend pinning delts, not many nerves, no pain, use a one inch pin.