Which one : 750mg Sustanon per week or 500mg Test Enanthate per week (same cost)

[Yellow]

Hi guys,

I always use testosterone as a base of every cycles I have run. But never use sustanon 250.
I've heard that sustanon will give less water retention & kicks-in faster due to the prop & phenylprop esters in it, but should be run at least every other day (EOD) or every day (ED).
I don't mind injecting EOD or ED.
This time I am curious about sustanon 250 and want to try it.

In my country, test enanthate (schering testoviron depot brand) is more expensive than sustanon 250 (organon brand).
I can get 2 ampoules of testoviron depot at the same price as 3 ampoules of sustanon 250.
Which one will give better result?
i.e : 500mg of Test Enanthate (Testoviron Depot) per week or 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week?
or maybe 1000mg of Test Enanthate (Testoviron Depot) per week or 1500mg of Sustanon 250 per week? (still the same price tough)

What do you think I should go with?

Please don't treat me like a newbie... I had many cycles under the belt (more than 10 cycles in the past). I have been using steroids for 4 years.
and have been training for 8 years (being natural for the first 4 years).
I am an athlete & competing also...

Any opinion and input would be highly appreciated..
Many Thanks Guys..

[D7M]

Well, obviously more test will yield better results, but whether its sust or enth doesn't really matter.

What were your previous cycles like? (dosage).

[D7M]

And you don't have to shoot sust EOD or ED:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y#.Tp2L194r230

[Times Roman]

^agreed. funny, here in afghanistan, and pretty much many other places, it's the enth that is the least expensive. What country are you referring to?

[chuckt12345]

why would you shoot more just because its cheaper? just buy less

[RB3232]

if you've done 10 cycles in the past, you should know which to do depending on your previous cycles and results

[redz]

Test is Test, really it comes down to preference but price shoudln`t be the be all factor when assembling a cycle. Make sure you get everything you need.

[MR10X]

I usually use test e and then switch to Prop for the last 4 weeks,but this cycle i started with Sust 500mg the first shot and 250mg every three days.I can tell you it got into my system much faster than the E and felt stronger than the 300mg of e i was doing every 3 days in my previous cycles.I think you get more test for your money with the Sust than the E because of the ester weights and you have to use more E to get the same effect as the sust.

[Yellow]

Well, obviously more test will yield better results, but whether its sust or enth doesn't really matter.

What were your previous cycles like? (dosage).

My previous cycle was:
Week 1-8 : 35mg Dbol ED + 500mg Test Enanthate per week + 300mg Deca per week
Week 9-10 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Then cutting cycle (contest-prep)
Week 11-18 : 50mg Winstrol ED + 250mg Test Enanthate per week + 75mg Tren EOD
Week 19-20 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Week 21-28 : 35mg Dbol ED + 25mg Winstrol ED + 500mg Test Enanthate per week
Week 29-30 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Week 31-40 : 500mg Test Enanthate per week
(Just for maintaining & solidifying)

Week 41-45 : PCT with Clomid & Nolva.
(I used HCG 300IU twice a week throughout the cycle)

[Schmidty]

I usually use test e and then switch to Prop for the last 4 weeks,but this cycle i started with Sust 500mg the first shot and 250mg every three days.I can tell you it got into my system much faster than the E and felt stronger than the 300mg of e i was doing every 3 days in my previous cycles.I think you get more test for your money with the Sust than the E because of the ester weights and you have to use more E to get the same effect as the sust.

id say its the other way around because sust has the deca ester in it and i think a longer ester then that

[Yellow]

I do have a friend who has done sustanon standalone and test enanthate standalone in 2 separated cycle.
He did 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week. He did 500mg of Test Enanthate per week.
Both cycles were 10 weeks length.

He noticed that 750mg Sustanon per week was weaker than 500mg test enanthate per week.
He got better gains & strength increase in 500mg test enanthate standalone cycle compared to 750mg Sustanon standalone cycle.

Any input for experienced sustanon & test enanthate users?

[slimshady01]

Yellow i asked this same question to Ronnie Rowland. He said either or but if you can use the 2 togther and it works nice.

He game me the example how to dose it that way in his thread near the end.

[Yellow]

Yeah thanks man.. I have read it..
Ronnie said that if we could use it together, then it would be nice.
BYW I think I am gonna use 1 of them, either sustanon or enanthate for the base of next cycle.

I have never used sustanon in the past. All I used was enanthate for the base of every cycles I ran.
This time I can get 3 ampoules of organon sustanon at the same price as 2 ampoules of schering testoviron depot (test enanthate).

What do you think I should go with?

[Yellow]

Bump for another input...

[t-gunz]

My previous cycle was:
Week 1-8 : 35mg Dbol ED + 500mg Test Enanthate per week + 300mg Deca per week
Week 9-10 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Then cutting cycle (contest-prep)
Week 11-18 : 50mg Winstrol ED + 250mg Test Enanthate per week + 75mg Tren EOD
Week 19-20 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Week 21-28 : 35mg Dbol ED + 25mg Winstrol ED + 500mg Test Enanthate per week
Week 29-30 : cruising with 250mg Test Enanthate

Week 31-40 : 500mg Test Enanthate per week
(Just for maintaining & solidifying)

Week 41-45 : PCT with Clomid & Nolva.
(I used HCG 300IU twice a week throughout the cycle)

is this right a 45 week cycle?

[lovbyts]

why would you shoot more just because its cheaper? just buy less

No buy more and save it for later. No need to run it higher unless you really think you need it and ready.

I do have a friend who has done sustanon standalone and test enanthate standalone in 2 separated cycle.
He did 750mg of Sustanon 250 per week. He did 500mg of Test Enanthate per week.
Both cycles were 10 weeks length.

He noticed that 750mg Sustanon per week was weaker than 500mg test enanthate per week.
He got better gains & strength increase in 500mg test enanthate standalone cycle compared to 750mg Sustanon standalone cycle.

Any input for experienced sustanon & test enanthate users?

More than likely it was UGL and the difference was in the actual potency. In other words the sust was under-dosed. Otherwise test is test is test as they say.

[Yellow]

is this right a 45 week cycle?

Yeah right man, It was 40 weeks cycle with 5 weeks PCT. I am now on 3 weeks past PCT..
I like long cycles as I am competing.. Longer is better for me, not higher (dose) is better..
Before this 40 weeks cycle, I ran 30 weeks cycle...

But I do always take 2-3 months OFF and get bloodwork done to keep everything in check before jumping on another cycle.

[Yellow]

No buy more and save it for later. No need to run it higher unless you really think you need it and ready.


More than likely it was UGL and the difference was in the actual potency. In other words the sust was under-dosed. Otherwise test is test is test as they say.

I don't think it was UGL and different in the actual potency.
The sustanon was Organon Pakistan (Karachi) and test enanthate was Schering Testoviron Depot (Berlin-Germany).
Both were legit too...

[Pac Man]

sust of course, I'd run it EOD personally