Looking to start a cycle.

[wesholcomb80]

I have been looking into taking steroids for a while now but I am not sure on what cycle to start with. I have looked at alot of different cycles on-line but with so many being fake I am not sure what to belive and what not to belive. I have read alot of threads on this site and would like some advice .....seems like you guys really know what you are talking about.

I have been working hard in the gym for the last three years and have seen improvement, just not the degree of impromement I would like to see. I feel as if I have just been spinning my wheels the last couple of years. I do not want to give up though.

I am 31 years old, 6'4'', and weigh 231lbs. I still push myself hard in the gym and do go up on weight but very slowly. I have taken every type of supplement from the health stores and I am tired of what feels like throwing my money away, (spending it there.) I would really appriciate any help I can get. I am going to start a cycle and I do not want to start it wrong.

One more thing is I want to stay with a oral cycle. I have a fear of needles!

Here are a couple of cycle's that I have found,

anadrol 50mg
stomba 10mg
proviron 25mg
clomid 50mg

another

dianabol 10mg
anadrol 50mg
novalex 10mg
proviron 25mg

another

decca 250
d-bolic
tren fina 75

[chuckt12345]

welcome,,
First thing is to start reading all the red important stickies at the top of the forum. This will get you familiar with everything. Second lose your fear of needles if you want to do this right.

[scorpion62]

Anavar 60-100mg per day 7 days a week for 4 weeks. This will net the least amount of overall gains from any of the oral only cycles but is the easiest when it comes to side effects bloat, sleeplessness and acne and I believe you keep the gains a little better with anavar over dbol because it's less water retention It increases overall strength pretty well and adds some good lean muscle mass. Many people argue that gains from anavar are more permanant than gains from other oral anabolics.

Dbol 40mg-80mg ED 7 days a week for 4 weeks. This will net you the most gains from any oral only cycle but will come with the worst sides of the oral only cycles Dbol will cause some increased water retention, acne and bloating. It may cause you to feel hot sometimes but this is generally pretty mild. Personally I would take 40mg broken up into two dosages throughout the day. Take 20mg when you wake up with your breakfeast then take 20mg in the early evening. So twice daily is fine

Winstrol 50mg -100mg ED Needs to be taken once daily 7 days a week for 4 weeks. This is a very good oral anabolic to run while cutting or dieting.

All of the above are hard on the liver taking milk thistle or Liv52 while you are on cycle will help your liver. They will also shut down your body’s ability to produce testosterone. So keep in mind that you'll need some pct

[wesholcomb80]

Thanks for the help, so you would not recommend any of the above that I have listed. I really do appreciate all the help I can get.

[tntauto1127]

For your first cycle I would stick with test e prob 400mg 2x a week. See how that works for you and go from there.

[JohnnyVegas]

For your first cycle I would stick with test e prob 400mg 2x a week. See how that works for you and go from there.

Do you mean 400mg 2x a week literally...as in 800mg/week? Or do you mean 400mg a week, broken into two injections?

Just want to make sure the OP gets what you are saying.

[wesholcomb80]

If you were going to start with a injectable cycle what would you recommend, or is it better to mix the two. I also know that your not suppose to consume alcohol on orals, is this true for injection as well?

[Matt]

If you were going to start with a injectable cycle what would you recommend, or is it better to mix the two. I also know that your not suppose to consume alcohol on orals, is this true for injection as well?

A good standard first cycle should be test only, most opt for test e as it only needs pinning twice a week, 300/500mgs will work.. One compound is best as we can better gauge sides...

[A-CBRF4I01]

Start with a simple test e cycle. If you search the boards more you should be able to find links on proper first cycles. As for the consuming alcohol, why bother? Its just going to affect your diet and results!

Knowledge is power!

[wesholcomb80]

The less injections the better, I truly have a fear of needles. As far as the alcohol I don't drink much, just socially. I'll have a couple of beers on the weekends.

[stpete]

Oral only cycles are junk. As mentioned, test for first cycle is best. Plus, it's really the king of all AAS. Inject into upper glutes to start. You can't go wrong w/23gauge x 1.5". You'll get over your fear real quick! Probably won't even feel it..

[wesholcomb80]

The test e, is that testosterone enanthate. I was wondering if I should quit taking all of the supplements that I take and just stay on my protein with the test.

[gixxerboy1]

The test e, is that testosterone enanthate. I was wondering if I should quit taking all of the supplements that I take and just stay on my protein with the test.

when you are ready thats what i would do. Also goto the PCT section on here and read the stickies. You need t ohave pct for any cycle you run

[wesholcomb80]

The place I found sells the test e in 250mg and 500mg, should I do 250mg twice a week or can you do 500mg once a week

[gixxerboy1]

the 500 will be more painfull. Also even if you get the 500 you should divide it up and do 250 2x a week. to keep your hormones level

[wesholcomb80]

Sounds good, thanks for all advice. The only concern I have left is my source.

[JohnnyVegas]

the 500 will be more painfull. Also even if you get the 500 you should divide it up and do 250 2x a week. to keep your hormones level

Agreed. I use Cyp (very much like E) and split it up into two injections. My E2 seemed to go up when I did one shot a week.