What do u think of my first cycle?

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 06:33 PM

Looking to run a Test Prop cycle on a bulk to add 25lbs
diet at 3800 cals and training 6x a week
if anyone wants more details on diet and routine let me know

so as far as the cycle is concerned
Test Prop 10 Weeks 100mg EOD
Armidex on hand if needed might actually run .25mg every two days

PCT 3 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10

and do you think that glutes/quads are enough for this cycle?

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 06:36 PM

Im focusing in on prop for my next cycle. I enjoy injecting; may even do ED. The only issue with prop is some people have painful inject sites. If you limit your injection sites you may be tender when putting in another needle a few days later. imo

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 06:37 PM

how many sites you using?

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 06:41 PM

That hard to answer; I dont know know how It will affect me yet. If its causes a considerable amount of pain i will def. avoid smaller injection sites. My past experience was with enth. and that I would inject anywhere with no prob.

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***321

That hard to answer; I dont know know how It will affect me yet. If its causes a considerable amount of pain i will def. avoid smaller injection sites. My past experience was with enth. and that I would inject anywhere with no prob.

i think i'll just use quads and glutes for now if they get too sore might add delts

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 06:50 PM

What are your stats?

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by boxa06;5***327

What are your stats?

Whats the point of your post?

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by boxa06;5***327

What are your stats?

5'8 175 looking to get to 200 honestly i never want to go above 200 just going to bulk then cut to get to a low bodyfat

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 06:55 PM

It seems like if your bored and have nothing to contribute you hop onto a thread and hope someone is too young or too small.

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***333

5'8 175 looking to get to 200 honestly i never want to go above 200 just going to bulk then cut to get to a low bodyfat

He doesn't care about your weight or height; just wants to know if your too young so he can save you. LOL

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***339

He doesn't care about your weight or height; just wants to know if your too young so he can save you. LOL

im 22 old enough and im dead set on this got my growth plates checked and they are sealed so no worries

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***332

Whats the point of your post?

The point of his post is to get his stats to give correct and logical advice. I've seem him post many times before, he does indeed have much to contribute.

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder;5***348

The point of his post is to get his stats to give correct and logical advice. I've seem him post many times before, he does indeed have much to contribute.

Exactly!

On this forum we like to check what the stats are and give advice accordingly.

**boxa06** · 10-18-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***311

That hard to answer; I dont know know how It will affect me yet. If its causes a considerable amount of pain i will def. avoid smaller injection sites. My past experience was with enth. and that I would inject anywhere with no prob.

Whats the point of you posting here. You don't even have experience with test prop!

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***336

It seems like if your bored and have nothing to contribute you hop onto a thread and hope someone is too young or too small.

Just cuz U don't care, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. Ur not gona last long here giving advice that could potentially hurt some1.

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:17 PM

This board needs a policy about age discussion. There are many threads that have immense informational potential that are flushed away because of age discussions. On another thread a moderator inquired about why the popularity of this forum has dropped to an all time low. In my opinion, threads falling apart due to age discussions , is a huge part of it.

Im not condoning the underage ( whatever that limit is) use of steroids . Nor do I condone giving advise to facilitate it. However, every night this board is filled with new posters asking for steroid advice... getting flamed... and never being seen again. Along with them goes a thread about a prop cycle or proper use of arimidex and nolva.... etc etc.

Possible solutions:

1. Have a vote of proper age of steroids and make it a 25 + web site
2. Ban the discussion of age all together

**Bigherm21** · 10-18-2011, 07:18 PM

No disrespect, but the growth plate theory is bullshit. Epiphiseal plate may take a couple years to solidify, bonegrowth at plates stops with puberty unless you w/o normal endo responses.

if you want to say the increase of muscle in short amt of time can cause more strength than bone and connective tissue can handle... I concur.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***346

im 22 old enough and im dead set on this got my growth plates checked and they are sealed so no worries

For one, 22 is not old enough, and growth plates should be the least of your concerns mate. Can someone post up Marcus's thread on the young and steroids ?

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:19 PM

In addition there are a handful of members that have nothing to contribute other than flaming people for age rule infractions. My favorites are the ones that admit they started steroids at a young age and still use them, but they are wise enough now to flame someone for the same mistake.

**Bigherm21** · 10-18-2011, 07:21 PM

Regardless your 175. You need food bot gear. At your age your natural test is equivalent too a 200mg test cycle. Why screw that up and maybe not get your natty levels.

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder;5***370

For one, 22 is not old enough, and growth plates should be the least of your concerns mate. Can someone post up Marcus's thread on the young and steroids?

im just running test prop and a solid PCT i believe i should be fine not like im jumping into a advanced cycle and im sure my body is done changing

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bigherm21;5***373

Regardless your 175. You need food bot gear. At your age your natural test is equivalent too a 200mg test cycle. Why screw that up and maybe not get your natty levels.

175 i think is pretty solid for my height im not trying to look like an IFBB

**Bigherm21** · 10-18-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***366

This board needs a policy about age discussion. There are many threads that have immense informational potential that are flushed away because of age discussions. On another thread a moderator inquired about why the popularity of this forum has dropped to an all time low. In my opinion, threads falling apart due to age discussions , is a huge part of it.

Im not condoning the underage ( whatever that limit is) use of steroids . Nor do I condone giving advise to facilitate it. However, every night this board is filled with new posters asking for steroid advice... getting flamed... and never being seen again. Along with them goes a thread about a prop cycle or proper use of arimidex and nolva.... etc etc.

Possible solutions:

1. Have a vote of proper age of steroids and make it a 25 + web site
2. Ban the discussion of age all together

Ya bro I'm over at ************ and ice been real active for the last couple years. It seems the number of first cycle posts, dbol only first cycles come up. The problem is there 18.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***374

im just running test prop and a solid PCT i believe i should be fine not like im jumping into a advanced cycle and im sure my body is done changing

Obviously you're not going to listen to anyone WITH EXPERIENCE here. So, go for it, listen to the other new members telling you age doesn't mean anything. You'll finally realize what a big mistake and the potential you had to get big naturally in a couple of years. Hope you enjoy your future years of TRT.
Good luck mate.

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 07:29 PM

strong 0 advice given and discussion on age

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:30 PM

Another possible solution would be to separate the forums concerning steroids to -25 and +25. The +25 will have real answers and advice. And the -25 will have all the underagers and people that get a kick out of saving them from doing steroids too early.

**UMadBrah** · 10-18-2011, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder;5***380

Obviously you're not going to listen to anyone WITH EXPERIENCE here. So, go for it, listen to the other new members telling you age doesn't mean anything. You'll finally realize what a big mistake and the potential you had to get big naturally in a couple of years. Hope you enjoy your future years of TRT.
Good luck mate.

ive been working out for 5 years brah i know the potential of natty gains i just wanna look amazing asap cause right now i have a great amount of free time and motivation/dedication

im not sure exactly how i will be later on

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***381

strong 0 advice given and discussion on age

Exactly. Another thread into the waste pile.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***384

ive been working out for 5 years brah i know the potential of natty gains i just wanna look amazing asap cause right now i have a great amount of free time and motivation/dedication

im not sure exactly how i will be later on

So basically, you want to take something that could potentially cause serious harm to your body because you want to "look amazing"?
Do you plan to make a career out of bodybuilding? To put food on your families table? Or do you just wanna look attractice to the drunk slobs at the bars?
There is obviously no point in trying to get you to be logical here.

**funkymonk** · 10-18-2011, 07:34 PM

Do you gain on 3800 @ 6x a week natty? I really don't see 25lbs as a realistic goal for 10wks at that level.

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***346

im 22 old enough and im dead set on this got my growth plates checked and they are sealed so no worries

No worries??? Wut about low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, & erection problems?!?!

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79;5***390

No worries??? Wut about low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, & erection problems?!?!

I was wondering when you were going to come in Bear, please knock some sense into this young fellah. Or, fellahs.

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:38 PM

No wonder no one uses the search function. For every informational thread there are 1000 like this one above.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***395

No wonder no one uses the search function. For every informational thread there are 1000 like this one above.

Find a new forum? Or stop crying.

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***382

Another possible solution would be to separate the forums concerning steroids to -25 and +25. The +25 will have real answers and advice. And the -25 will have all the underagers and people that get a kick out of saving them from doing steroids too early.

Quit being a fvckin douche u little limp dick punk! No1 gets a "kick" out of it, u don't hav 2 infect ever1 else with ur uneducated spewing, u can shut ur stupid mouth, & let the members that care enuf 2 lookout 4 the kids future health, help him, so y don't u.

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79;5***403

Quit being a fvckin douche u little limp dick punk! No1 gets a "kick" out of it, u don't hav 2 infect ever1 else with ur uneducated spewing, u can shut ur stupid mouth, & let the members that care enuf 2 lookout 4 the kids future health, help him, so y don't u.

Great contribution.

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by UMadBrah;5***384

ive been working out for 5 years brah i know the potential of natty gains i just wanna look amazing asap cause right now i have a great amount of free time and motivation/dedication

im not sure exactly how i will be later on

Listen brother, I know how u feel, I've been there, but don't b so impatient, do urself a favor man, just slow down, U WILL GET THERE. I grantee, if u post ur diet & training regime, we can show how 2 mak new gains u thought u couldn't make naturally, within 30 days.

**SufferToReturnHarder** · 10-18-2011, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***404

Great contribution.

Bear is speaking the truth. Xelnaga, show me threads were you have contributed any correct and logical post. Please. If you can't might as well leave this forum.

**xelnaga** · 10-18-2011, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by SufferToReturnHarder;5***407

Bear is speaking the truth. Xelnaga, show me threads were you have contributed any correct and logical post. Please. If you can't might as well leave this forum.

I question whether you read this thread. The debate is not about underage steroid use . The debate is how much time and energy is spent trashing threads with reasons why its a bad idea. If you can keep up stick to the kiddy pool

**The Bear 79** · 10-18-2011, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga;5***404

Great contribution.

Ur rite, that was counter productive, & I apologize. But u gotta quit man, I know u will never admit it out loud, but u know in ur mind, ur wrong & ur gona get some1 hurt. Just quit dude.