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    Thumbs up 4000mg of tren a week ???

    okay so im trying to find out as much info on tren as ive been looking into using it on my next cycle
    whats your personall faveroute tren ?? i know parabolin is the only type on HG tren on the market but its so bloody expensive !! so when running test as a base whats the normal amount of tren to be used durin a cycle
    i been looking into running tren enanthate @ 400mg e,w for 10 weeks using test as a base ??? is it hard to find legit tren on the market, and isit very dangerous to humans seein as its no longer made for prescription ???
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    your title says 4grams of tren a week, your post says 400mg of tren a week. Which is it?

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    Ooops i meant 400mg a week, dont think im quite ready for 4g yet hah.

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    I'm hoping 400,
    No tren isnt hard to find. Most ugl's make it. And its a matter of finding a quality one just like with any other steroid
    Tren has more side effect then the average steroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman;5***910
    your title says 4grams of tren a week, your post says 400mg of tren a week. Which is it?
    I noticed that to and got the sides from tren just reading it....
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    cheers gixer boy, yea tren seems to be v.powerfull but it doesnt cause estrogen related sides no ?? like gyno etc ? also is tren enanthate the easyest to work with as im not looking for frequent injections 2x week, 250mg test 200mg tren mon/thurs. also is tren expesive yes ?? and is 400mg a good dose for a first tren cycle then yea ???
    thanks again

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    hahah not planning on 4g yet boys !!!

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    I seem to have a temper when I'm cycling with tren . It was a fairly low dose, around the 400mg you are mentioning, maybe a bit less. I think next time i'll just cook it myself, since over here it was friggin expensive!!

    btw... i can only get tren acetate over here which meant i was pinning it daily

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661;5***931
    cheers gixer boy, yea tren seems to be v.powerfull but it doesnt cause estrogen related sides no ?? like gyno etc ? also is tren enanthate the easyest to work with as im not looking for frequent injections 2x week, 250mg test 200mg tren mon/thurs. also is tren expesive yes ?? and is 400mg a good dose for a first tren cycle then yea ???
    thanks again
    yes tren can cause gyno
    enethate would only be injections 2x a week. But i would recommend tren a for the first time. If the side get to be to much you can stop and the tren a will be out of your system faster.
    We dont discuss prices here so cant really answer. But it typically cost more then say test would.

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    A little tren goes a long way.

    I've added as little as 200mg/wk of tren E into my TRT before and LOVED it. Got decent results without any of the sides.

    That said, for your first run with tren, I agree with Gixxer that the Acetate would be a better choice, and I'd shoot for 300-350mg/wk.

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    so if i was running tren acetate could mon/wed/fri be enough for injection wise ??? so i could double up with the test on mon/fri nd just do a single shot of tren on wednesday, also how long does it take tren-a to kick in and can you run it for 9-10 weeks ???
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    This isn't the right game to be in if you're afraid of needles. Agree w/ Gixxer and D7M, Tren ace for this cycle. And it's ok to inject EOD too.

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    im not scared of needles it just my last cycle was prop eod for 8 weeks and i just found it abit much, i dont enjoy pinning so if i could i would avoid frequent pinning. would mon/wed/fri be good enought on tren ace or could no jobbin on the weekend be bad for tren levels ???
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    tren a should be eod. You body doesnt know mon, wed, fri. it needs to be done every 24-48 hours.
    Tren a kicks in pretty quick. You can run it for that long. I would go 8 weeks personally

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    sweet nice one mate
    so how you think this would look then
    week 1-14 enanthate 500mg e,w
    week 1-8 tren ace 100mg eod
    possibly d-bol week 1-4 40mg e,d
    PCT clomid, and nolvadex . and i take it its fine to mix the test and tren in same syringe ??
    cheers

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    looks good but i dont know your stats or goals.
    yes you can mix the 2 in the same syringe

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661;5***904
    okay so im trying to find out as much info on tren as ive been looking into using it on my next cycle
    whats your personall faveroute tren ?? i know parabolin is the only type on HG tren on the market but its so bloody expensive !! so when running test as a base whats the normal amount of tren to be used durin a cycle
    i been looking into running tren enanthate @ 400mg e,w for 10 weeks using test as a base ??? is it hard to find legit tren on the market, and isit very dangerous to humans seein as its no longer made for prescription ???
    cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661;5***931
    cheers gixer boy, yea tren seems to be v.powerfull but it doesnt cause estrogen related sides no ?? like gyno etc ? also is tren enanthate the easyest to work with as im not looking for frequent injections 2x week, 250mg test 200mg tren mon/thurs. also is tren expesive yes ?? and is 400mg a good dose for a first tren cycle then yea ???
    thanks again
    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661 View Post
    so if i was running tren acetate could mon/wed/fri be enough for injection wise ??? so i could double up with the test on mon/fri nd just do a single shot of tren on wednesday, also how long does it take tren-a to kick in and can you run it for 9-10 weeks ???
    cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661 View Post
    im not scared of needles it just my last cycle was prop eod for 8 weeks and i just found it abit much, i dont enjoy pinning so if i could i would avoid frequent pinning. would mon/wed/fri be good enought on tren ace or could no jobbin on the weekend be bad for tren levels ???
    cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661 View Post
    sweet nice one mate
    so how you think this would look then
    week 1-14 enanthate 500mg e,w
    week 1-8 tren ace 100mg eod
    possibly d-bol week 1-4 40mg e,d
    PCT clomid, and nolvadex . and i take it its fine to mix the test and tren in same syringe ??
    cheers
    Your simple questions worry me.

    How much research have you done into steroids ?

    Have you read the Profiles Forum?

    Have you spent time reading sernior members and staff responses to questions in the Q&A?

    Have you used the search feature?

    I'm all for helping members, but your questions are very easily answered.

    What are your stats and age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Your simple questions worry me.

    How much research have you done into steroids ?

    Have you read the Profiles Forum?

    Have you spent time reading sernior members and staff responses to questions in the Q&A?

    Have you used the search feature?

    I'm all for helping members, but your questions are very easily answered.

    What are your stats and age?
    x2.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661;5***914
    Ooops i meant 400mg a week, dont think im quite ready for 4g yet hah.
    Do yourself a favor and NEVER be ready for 4g's of TREN a week. It wouldnt be a good thing.

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    he is 21, surprise surprise he didnt post again

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    i know abit on the younger side but i honestly felt i had hit my naturall genetics, if you could see the rest of my family's build/size you would probally believe me. started BB 3 years ago sereously, went from uner 11 stone at about 12% b,f up to 12.4 stone sitting at roughly 10-11% b,f natually, the year after i managed to get up to 13 sonte wich was still good i thought for me keeping the b,f down, diet is good/clean and wholesome foods. as time went on i kept mixing/changing programmes diets etc etc gains were next to nothing so yeaa i decided to do a cycle on my 3rd year, read up on it and probally spent about 6-8 months deciding on what i was going to do in the end i went with propionate @ 100mg eod and anavar @ 70mg e.d for a 7-8 weeks cycle (altho the var ended after 6 weeks) i am now sitting at 14 stone which i believe to be 92kg ?? and 13% b,f. great cycle and i have had nothing negative from it, not sayin i may not in the future. so i am deciding to run another cycle in 2 months time and am getting as much info on what i can run next. i know some will say im young and you might be right but im not one of these 21 year olds that have done a d-bol only cycle and no PCT i read up into it and made sure i did what i thought was the safest cycle for me and my goals.
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    Ok mate whats your new cycle plan, lay it out nice and clear??

    Although we try to encourage our younger members away from using aas if their mind is set on it we will assist and guide you as best we can....
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    cheers matt
    well basically i want to run my next cycle longer than 8 weeks, been thinking 14 weeks using enanthate at 500mg e,w. altho i got good gains from my prop i want to try enanthate and the 2x week injection now appeals to me. the reason i mentioned tren is alot of mates use it, some hate it just because they say they dont notice anything but some love it and say they get the best gains ever on it. i know alot will say its not really for a 2nd cycle but this is what ive been trying to find out as i do want to maximise my gains on this cycle but also keeping the gains lean.

    cycle ideas have been:

    enanthate week 1-14 500mg e,w
    tren ace week 1-8 100mg eod

    OR

    enanthate week 1-14 500mg e,w
    deca week 1-10 500mg e,w

    OR
    enanthate week 1-14 500mg e,w
    tren enanthate week 1-10 400mg e,w

    and possibly involving some d-bol for the first 4 weeks at 30-40 mg e.d as i have some on hand.
    i have arimidex on hand as an AI
    and as for pct il be doing clomid/nolvadex
    clomid 100/100/50/50
    nolvadex 40/40/20/20

    my questions are is which cycle would promote the best gains ?? deca sounds tempting but the so called "deca dick" side effect is one that i need to avoid, i know tren can lower libido but i hear its not as bad as deca. and for a first time tren user should it be ace over enanthate ?? just tren enanthate sounds better due to i can just pin it with the test.

    thanks again

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    taking test with deca should eliminate deca dick.
    As you know you are young and steroids can be dangerous for you. But if you are going to go that route no need to up the risk and take tren too. Tren has some of the worst side effects and shuts you down hard. I would avoid it at your age and only a second cycle. You can make good gains with out jumping on the strongest thing out there

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    cheers the for the reply gixxerboy, yea i think i probally will think more into using tren seein as its only my second cycle. what else stacks well with test injection wise ??
    do you think the deca and test cycle i had planned would be a good second cycle choise ???

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    everything goes good with test.
    what are your goals of the cycle?

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    my goals are to gain as much as possible without trying to sound greedy hah, saying that i want to keep the gains leanish, about 15lb gains if possible. test will be my base but i do want to add something with it preferably injection wise, deca seems to be very common and also gives decent gains but if you have any preferences that you like to stack with test id be gratefull if you could fill me in.
    thanks again

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    i think test, deca would be a good cycle then

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    cheers gixer think thats what il probally do, leave tren for another time, and so is 500mg test and 500mg deca a good ratio then yess ??
    thanks again

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    thats fine. I would run the test a week longer then the deca
    Smart move on the tren

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    il be running enanthate for 14 weeks and deca for 10 both at 500mg. is it worth me adding in the d-bol as i have it on hand ???
    cheers for helping

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    i wouldnt use it. No need for extra compounds. Save them they wont go bad

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    4000mg joke

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    im guessing the door is open on advice on young usage here now? (and this is just a question, not a fire starter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    im guessing the door is open on advice on young usage here now? (and this is just a question, not a fire starter)
    If their mind is made up then yes mate, remember these guy's are old enough to fight and die for their country....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    im guessing the door is open on advice on young usage here now? (and this is just a question, not a fire starter)
    x2 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    If their mind is made up then yes mate, remember these guy's are old enough to fight and die for their country....
    ok, i'll stick to the 25+ threads mate, no offence intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    ok, i'll stick to the 25+ threads mate, no offence intended
    None taken mate...
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    I was just thinking the exact same thing. This forum is so contradicting.
    One minute people say we dont give advice to kids then the next we are laying out cycles advice. Not trying to fire start either but which is it?!

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    It's a case of trying to steer the young members away from AAS and advise them as to the reasons why. BUT, if they insist on using AAS, which most do, then it would be more irresponsible to not have those in the know, advise them.

    It's the lesser of two evils. I'd hate to hear someone going it alone and completely screwing themselves at such a young age. Yeah, I agree with Dec, some members are too young, but if their minds made up, then someone should tell them how to do it properly. I guess that it's a positive that they have at least joined a forum to gain a little knowledge.

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