nolvadex is NOT a PCT drug !!!

**flyguy6661** · 10-19-2011, 12:21 PM

is this true, im currently into my pct using clomid & nolvadex , everyone i talk to says how shit nolvadex is, some have gotten rashes from it etc etc and im often told to just stick to clomid ?? any one agree with this. alot of users i know say nolvadex should only really be used to combat estrogen sides while on cycle ??
cheers

**redz** · 10-19-2011, 12:24 PM

Nolva is for pct. Who ever is telling you that stuff is an idiot. I have never gotten rashes from any gear or ancillary drugs.

**Bonaparte** · 10-19-2011, 12:37 PM

Complete bullshit.
Stop talking to "everyone".

**Swifto** · 10-19-2011, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

is this true, im currently into my pct using clomid & nolvadex , everyone i talk to says how shit nolvadex is, some have gotten rashes from it etc etc and im often told to just stick to clomid ?? any one agree with this. alot of users i know say nolvadex should only really be used to combat estrogen sides while on cycle ??
cheers

Where have you heard this? Elite fitness?

Tamoxifen is a breast cancer SERM originally made for women. However, its potent and bringing up testosterone post cycle and should be used, yes.

I'm glad you came here and asked.

**sir.solidarity** · 10-19-2011, 01:06 PM

Works fine for me.

**AaronJM1984** · 10-19-2011, 01:11 PM

its ideal for pct

**gymfu** · 10-19-2011, 01:15 PM

Hum, interesting how there are pockets of people out there that say and think something like that. Glad you checked here because those guys are wrong.

**Lemonada8** · 10-19-2011, 01:19 PM

Nolva is def used in PCT. I use it during my cycle for gyno prevention, and in PCT.
It raises post cycle test levels AND increases the responsiveness of the body to LH which makes recovery better

**stpete** · 10-19-2011, 01:56 PM

PCT varies from person to person, but if anyone says Nolva isn't for PCT, they don't know what they're talking about. Should be keeping their mouth shut as a matter of fact.

**WSC786** · 10-20-2011, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Complete bullshit.
Stop talking to "everyone".

Funny and true all at the same time.

**cro** · 10-20-2011, 04:41 AM

recently seen a comercial for warning about clomid.and if youve been perscribed this you may have a law suit.it was 1 of those lawyer advertisments.

**Mr_Prop_var_Testen** · 10-20-2011, 05:26 AM

Nolva is best...

**shennen** · 10-20-2011, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by cro

recently seen a comercial for warning about clomid.and if youve been perscribed this you may have a law suit.it was 1 of those lawyer advertisments.

What the f.......
Any more info?

**Swifto** · 10-20-2011, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by cro

recently seen a comercial for warning about clomid.and if youve been perscribed this you may have a law suit.it was 1 of those lawyer advertisments.

I cant find anything saying the FDA have recalled Clomid, nor have they added anything to the labels of it.

I know Clomid is being linked to birth defects recently though and this is the source of the lawsuits.

Sueing pharmaceutical companies in the USA is massive business. I just read that a man was awarded $48m for an adverse skin disorder and mouth blistering when he took Motrin...

Mental you lot over the pond. In the UK they'de tell you to f*ck off.

**Swifto** · 10-20-2011, 07:04 AM

Clomid has recently been moved in Category X, which means its in the highest group for birth defects...

However, this is for WOMEN, not men. And there if nothing (so far) to suggest that mean taking Clomid and getting their partner pregnant will yield birth defects, but I wouldnt do it personally. Reminds me of Isotretinion, which is also in Category X.

**shennen** · 10-20-2011, 10:23 AM

Thanks swifto.
And lol at 'over the pond'

**DIESELPWR** · 10-20-2011, 10:35 AM

Wow I just read up on the type x stuff that swifto just mentioned and they even make you join a thing called ipledge to be administered meds on that list and women need to take 2 forms of birth control simultaneously and it even makes a male join even tho they havnt proved it can be transmitted through semen.. It says they are easing up on men and women non child bearing age tho

**acidking** · 10-20-2011, 12:36 PM

Clomid can inhibit either the Pituitary or the Hypothalamus gland, but taken with Nolvadex it blocks the estrogen receptors so you won't inhibit either. So for PCT Clomid should always be taken with Nolvadex.

**Lemonada8** · 10-20-2011, 03:49 PM

^^ that doesnt make any sense although you arrived to the correct conclusion

**cro** · 10-20-2011, 03:51 PM

not sure exactly what the commercial was about but it was clomid,SCARRY, and yes there is a ton of these type of law suits in the US.

Originally Posted by Swifto

I cant find anything saying the FDA have recalled Clomid, nor have they added anything to the labels of it.

I know Clomid is being linked to birth defects recently though and this is the source of the lawsuits.

Sueing pharmaceutical companies in the USA is massive business. I just read that a man was awarded $48m for an adverse skin disorder and mouth blistering when he took Motrin...

Mental you lot over the pond. In the UK they'de tell you to f*ck off.

**Swifto** · 10-20-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by DIESELPWR

Wow I just read up on the type x stuff that swifto just mentioned and they even make you join a thing called ipledge to be administered meds on that list and women need to take 2 forms of birth control simultaneously and it even makes a male join even tho they havnt proved it can be transmitted through semen.. It says they are easing up on men and women non child bearing age tho

Pretty crazy isnt it.

I know for a fact Isotretinion (accutane) should NOT be taken by men or women trying for a baby, or without a good contraception. Plenty of serious birth defects.

Originally Posted by acidking

Clomid can inhibit either the Pituitary or the Hypothalamus gland, but taken with Nolvadex it blocks the estrogen receptors so you won't inhibit either. So for PCT Clomid should always be taken with Nolvadex.

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

^^ that doesnt make any sense although you arrived to the correct conclusion

None at all.

**dec11** · 10-20-2011, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I cant find anything saying the FDA have recalled Clomid, nor have they added anything to the labels of it.

I know Clomid is being linked to birth defects recently though and this is the source of the lawsuits.

Sueing pharmaceutical companies in the USA is massive business. I just read that a man was awarded $48m for an adverse skin disorder and mouth blistering when he took Motrin...

Mental you lot over the pond. In the UK they'de tell you to f*ck off.

Dublin is getting as bad as the US. some crazy claims going in

**Shol'va** · 10-20-2011, 05:03 PM

That's it I'm sue-ing all you fvcks!

**Swifto** · 10-20-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

Dublin is getting as bad as the US. some crazy claims going in

Claims, yes. But do they pay tens of millions out as well like the USA?

**dec11** · 10-20-2011, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Claims, yes. But do they pay tens of millions out as well like the USA?

more the 100,000's, depending of course. but for absolutely stupid things like 'frightening someone' 'embarrassing someone'. cupid stunts

**acidking** · 10-20-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

^^ that doesnt make any sense although you arrived to the correct conclusion

This is coming straight from a doctor, who himself is on the gear.

**Lemonada8** · 10-21-2011, 09:58 PM

Well then your doctor is misinformed.... End of story.

**Lemonada8** · 10-21-2011, 10:36 PM

Well then your doctor is misinformed.... End of story.

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-22-2011, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I cant find anything saying the FDA have recalled Clomid, nor have they added anything to the labels of it.

I know Clomid is being linked to birth defects recently though and this is the source of the lawsuits.

Sueing pharmaceutical companies in the USA is massive business. I just read that a man was awarded $48m for an adverse skin disorder and mouth blistering when he took Motrin...

Mental you lot over the pond. In the UK they'de tell you to f*ck off.

$48m for Motrin, eh? I'm getting a bottle and then I'm calling Lionel Hutz.

**Swifto** · 10-22-2011, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

$48m for Motrin, eh? I'm getting a bottle and then I'm calling Lionel Hutz.

The sides effects the user got, were not listed on the label, nor in the description.

Hence the law suit.

Take a med, get an adverse side effect (fairly serious) and if its not on the label or description, the pharmaceutical company better lawyer up pretty fast.