NEED 1st, 2nd cycle advice.

[oboyyoc]

Hi guys,

This is my first cycle. I could use some feed back on what I'm doing wrong/right as well as what I should and should not do. I don't know too much about gear and I am completely new to all of this. I've based my decisions on these cycles from what I've learned from reading. Feel free to criticize and advise, I could use it. Thanks guys.

Body stats:
220 lbs
5'9 height
20-25% body fat
21 yrs

(ALL GSL)

1st cycle: ORAL
week 1: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 2: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 3: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 4: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 5: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 6: 30mg dbol/day, 20 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 7: 20 mg nolva/day
week 8: 20 mg nolva/day

2nd cycle:
week 1: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 2: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 3: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 4: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 5: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 6: 30 mg dbol/day, 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 7: 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 8: 400 mg deca/wk, 10 mg test/day, 1mg adex/day
week 9: 20 mg nolva/day
week 10: 20 mg nolva/day

[funkymonk]

What type of test?

Also, too young, too much bf %, PCT in grossly inadequate, dosages are off.

[oboyyoc]

I could be over exaggerating on body fat. possibly 15-20%. GSL Methyltesto 25 mg tab. I want to keep it oral for my 1st cycle. Thanks for you new. Any advice you can give me on a moderate 1st cycle?

[coot589]

When you are atleast 25 the only first cycle I would recomend would be.
Test E 250mg 2x A week
So
500mg test E wk 1-10
armidex .25mg EOD
PCT
Clomid wk 1-2 100mg ED wk 3-6 50mg ED
nova wk 1-2 40mg ED wk 3-6 20mg ED
6 weeks being the shortes PCT
Aways do PCT as at least half as long as cycle better to do longer tho.

[oboyyoc]

is test e common for a first cycle? can i gain mass with just test and dex?

[coot589]

Mass and cutting depend more on the diet not the compound
More cal. and protein the bigger you will get.
High protein low cal low carbs Cutting
Simple break down
But truthfully diet more important then any drug for you to reach your goals anyone here will agree

[oboyyoc]

what will the test generally do for me after the cycle? thanks again for the use tips

[coot589]

Test E is common because it only takes 2 shots a week
test C is also good but has longer life and only needs to be 1 shot a week
Most short esters like prop are more potent then E at the same mg because the PROP version is used up quick giving you more Test at a faster rate of absorption but requires shots EOD so 300mg of prop should be as strong as 500mg of Test E but this is only true by mg because E will build up giving you higher levels toward the end of the cycle. But this is all a little confusing and will never effect the average user but some pros live by different esters and some say that it really does not matter.

[coot589]

After PCT the Test will give you an idea compared to the first test how your body reacted to the PCT and if it recovered back to your normal levels (Pre cycle levels)
Allows you to judge your next cycle and helps you figure out how long you should run PCT. If your levels are lower then they were before cycle then run PCT loner if they are the same or higher in respects to Testosterone then PCT was fine. I estrogen is high then do PCT longer.

[oboyyoc]

oh alright, thanks. damn i didnt know that procedures like that should be done. I always thought it was as easy as dbol test and adex. can cycles like dbol test and adex go wrong or is it manageable?

[coot589]

anything can go wrong that's why we get blood test before and after until you know how your body reacts. The drug it self can not hurt you if it is a legit hormone but the misuse or overuse is what is bad for you. Get diet in check first

[oboyyoc]

thanks for the advice coot! dang i couldve killed myself.

[coot589]

You would not have killed yourself just grew some boobs, got shrunken balls, and a non functioning libido LOL

[The Situation]

Test doesn't come in orals..

[sir.solidarity]

Is this supposed to be all orals?
Oral test........wat

[coot589]

no test is injections
Test Orals are weak
Don't fear the pin!

[oboyyoc]

the oral test is mytheltestos. and yea, i fear the pin!

[coot589]

Do Not fear pin or accept liver failure from to many orals!

[oboyyoc]

within how many months will your live experience major problems? so if i did hop to a pin, can i do deca, test, and arimdex for a cycle?

[bjohnson1968]

IMHO.....Please do not consider any cycle until you do a lot more research...Based on reading this post no offense but you need more education first

Not to mention your BF% is way to high your to young at this time along with lack of knowledge= Disaster

Start by reading the educational threads at the top of this Q/A section there's a ton of info great place to start

Peace

[SufferToReturnHarder]

IMHO.....Please do not consider any cycle until you do a lot more research...Based on reading this post no offense but you need more education first

Not to mention your BF% is way to high your to young at this time along with lack of knowledge= Disaster

Start by reading the educational threads at the top of this Q/A section there's a ton of info great place to start

Peace

Listen to what this guy told ya.

[heavenlyblessed]

I'd recommend more research OP, best wishes.