Had to quit my cycle due to medical reasons and started doing PCT after i quit. I was taking 1cc of test E/deca 250 every wed/sun. I need to know if a full 4 weeks of PCT is needed.
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Had to quit my cycle due to medical reasons and started doing PCT after i quit. I was taking 1cc of test E/deca 250 every wed/sun. I need to know if a full 4 weeks of PCT is needed.
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prb iffy,, im not always keen on shoving more hormone altering substances in your body if you dont need them. Maybe run a light one. 25 clomid and 20 nolva
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3 weeks Test E only, I would say no.
But with Deca in the mix, definitely run your 4 weeks PCT.
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I am feeling a little lightheaded taking the PCT and not quite myself so I'm defiantly wanting to get off soon, but I also know if i don't do a good PCT that just causes more trouble down the road.
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Good post.Originally Posted by Flier
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Lightheaded is not a SERM side I have experienced. You may be low in Test, as Deca shut u down fast while the slow ester was working itself in.
What´s your cycle history?
Did your balls shrink?
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I done a cycle back in 2008 did everything right had a good cycle took awhile off then came in doing my research and tried what i stated earlier test E/Deca but by the 3 week I ended up having a panic attack and just not being feeling good at all. so ended up having to quit cold turkey which is totally not recommended. I have a doctor monitoring me and running blood work and put a heart monitor on me and blood work came back good, EKG was normal, and still waiting on the heart monitor research to make sure i don't have an irregular heart beat. for the first 2 weeks i felt great though i was making great gains eating right. I ended up getting real sick then took some sinus medicine and my regular multivitamins, and it just seemed everything went down hill. I am just not getting somewhat back to the world and its been a week and a half so defiantly not taking anymore steroids this is my last time, and just wanting to get my body back to normal at this point.
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I did my research and talked to some regular users at my local gym and I didn't think what I was doing was a crazy amount. I added Deca this cycle but didn't think that would have this adverse affect on me. I have always been pretty cautious especially with stuff like this. I don't do recreational dr ugs and i maybe drink 2 beers during those 3 weeks and worked out 6 days a week. so i don't know if i just over did it or what but defiantly enough to say im good for a lifetime after going to the hospital for a panic attack.
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oh and my balls maybe shrunk a little but i wasnt on long enough to be able to tell a huge difference
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Ok, what do you relate the panic attack to?
"Not feeling good at all"....
Could you have suffered from low test?
Through your research for this cycle, did you not consider starting E first, then add Deca later in the cycle?
I´m asking because E is a slow ester, but Deca will "rob" your body from Test in a couple of days. Ie your Test may have plummeted, the E kicks in and you swing the other way...along with your Estrogen.
This may be why you felt like shit.
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oh and is it 2 or 3 weeks it takes everything to get out of your system ive talked to probably 10 people and gotten a different answer each time. can someone please give me some real information. even online there are different answers.
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2 weeks
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deca could stay for awhile, someone posted study that it can supress for 12wks,, btw ive run a few deca only cycles and never had prbs with libido. I wouldnt worry to to much about it OP.
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everything I read gave mixed signals their were people who ran it together then their were people who did what your suggested ran E first then Deca. I think my hormones were all messed up and thats why I had a panic attack but im not doctor. I started taking my PCT a week after my last shot because i just had this hunch that my shit was all jacked up. I started coming back little by little. this wednesday will be a full 2 weeks off both so Im hoping everything is going to come back soon. I have to be honest though I was almost about to lose my mind. I think i might have checked myself into a psych ward if I hadnt had as much mind control as i do, but it was litterally struggle everyday last week. The doctor didnt want to give me to take the antiestrogen saying my regular system would bounce back on its on, but i knew something was jacked up so i started anyways
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prb shouldnt mess with AAS anymore. Side note, i have more sides and prbs with clomid than anything else i have taken, aas or pct.
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Yeah that's defiantly not going to happen again. I am done I am just trying to get my body back to normal at this point. what are the sides you get with clomid?
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Oh, so you started PCT immediately...
I said 2 weeks above(E), but the Deca will stay longer, like 3 weeks.
The serms has not done anything for you, and will not for another few days (going with the 3 weeks for Deca)
Kind of a mess. But at this point I would just continue with the PCT as planned.
If you have nolva for an additional 2 weeks, then run it after stopping Clomid.
How´s your erection through this? Morning wood?
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It was a week after the last injection of both, and this wednesday will be a full week of taking my PCT. which will also be a full two weeks of both my shot of testE/Deca. I think it has helped somewhat because i last week it was almost intolerable, and now I am able to at lease get things done. It might just be getting weaker in my system to so honestly I really don't know at this point. I had a hormone test done and waiting in the results of it and wont get them for a few days, but willing to bet I had enough estrogen running through me for (10) women. had sex a few times haven't really thought about morning wood. that might be a bad thing. after this happened I have only been concerned with getting my body back to normal and havent thoguht about too much else.
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Pretty simple, not necessarily but do you really want to risk it? I doubt it...
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Run a normal PCT starting 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca.
And yes, lightheadedness/headrush is a common side effect of Clomid (usually above 100mg).
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Run a low pct
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Wrong.
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Run a full PCT.
One shot of deca will shut you down within 24hrs. Did the bloodwork myself to see how suppressive it really was. One 300mg shot of deca dropped my levels from 700s to mid 250s in less than 24hrs.
So yes, you are shut down.
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What you did was introducing SERMS while you had the full effects of Deca and your E was kicking in.
I´m sure your cocktail of hormone inducing/robbing compounds made you feel the way you did. So the good news is, you´re not insane
You may feel like shit again as the E now is gone, but Deca remaining, while you are trying to stimulate your Pituitary.
Just know that you will level out as your HPTA finds homeostasis during the coming weeks.
Like I said previously, your SERMS have done nothing for you so far.
What exactly are your compounds and doses, and how much do you have at hand?
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I have about 3 weeks left of 20mg PCT. I figured I would run 20mg/ed for the next two weeks then drop to 10mg/ed for the last week. I went back and started counting how long I had been on and it was only a full 2 weeks 5 shots of both so I'm thinking my system will reboot itself fairly quickly. thanks for all the help guys it was greatly needed and appreciated.
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