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    3rd cycle; Prop-Dbol

    Hey- Here is my proposed Fall cycle.


    Stats: 195-200 5'10 15-18% bf
    Age 26


    Previous cycles: 2 test enth 500mgs; Last enth with dbol


    Proposed cycle

    Week 1-12 100 mgs of Prop eod
    Week 1-4 30-50mg dbol
    Week 1-16 Arimidex .5 eod ( have issues with aromatase )
    Week 12-15 100/50/25 Clomid

    10,000 ius of HCG

    Letro on hand

    Goals are 15-20 lb gain


    Okay- So this is my first cycle in several years. I am currently laid off; so finances for food are not ideal. I can still manage 3500-4000 cals. a day with a pretty solid protein intake ( 350-400). I do not have cash for protein shakes, creatine, or energy sups.

    This cycle is a long time in the making. I was laid off back in march, had two surgeries, lots of junk. I'm in a real transitional period of my life. Im counting on this cycle to help me mantain focus on improving my life, and to keep me occupied.

    Thanks for any input.

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    Cycle doesn't look bad at all. Maybe a little more aggressive on post with some nolva and run the clomid at lowest 50. Maybe do it for 4 weeks on post.

    The main concern would be your layoff time. Make sure your bodies is ready for the cycle. Get some gym time in before jumping on. so that it is ready for the stress on tendons, etc...

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    my main concern is why that weight with 5'10" and with 18% bf ???
    bf is very high and weight is low even for a natural guy , yet u did 2 cycles
    i think you have major diet issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    my main concern is why that weight with 5'10" and with 18% bf ???
    bf is very high and weight is low even for a natural guy , yet u did 2 cycles
    i think you have major diet issues
    I wanted to leave this out but my last two cycles were at 17-18 yrs. Long time ago. Ive been lifting for 13 years now. Bf is higher than I would like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xelnaga View Post
    Hey- Here is my proposed Fall cycle.


    Stats: 195-200 5'10 15-18% bf
    Age 26


    Previous cycles: 2 test enth 500mgs; Last enth with dbol


    Proposed cycle

    Week 1-12 100 mgs of Prop eod
    Week 1-4 30-50mg dbol
    Week 1-16 Arimidex .5 eod ( have issues with aromatase )
    Week 12-15 100/50/25 Clomid

    10,000 ius of HCG

    Letro on hand

    Goals are 15-20 lb gain


    Okay- So this is my first cycle in several years. I am currently laid off; so finances for food are not ideal. I can still manage 3500-4000 cals. a day with a pretty solid protein intake ( 350-400). I do not have cash for protein shakes, creatine, or energy sups.

    This cycle is a long time in the making. I was laid off back in march, had two surgeries, lots of junk. I'm in a real transitional period of my life. Im counting on this cycle to help me mantain focus on improving my life, and to keep me occupied.

    Thanks for any input.
    Cycle is fine.

    HCG 250-500ius 2x week.

    Letro 0.25mg/E2D.

    5-6 weeks on PCT, not 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    my main concern is why that weight with 5'10" and with 18% bf ???
    bf is very high and weight is low even for a natural guy , yet u did 2 cycles
    i think you have major diet issues
    18% is not too high to cycle, I hate these comments.

    His doses are low, not off the charts at those stats, thats what would set alarm bells off in my head about his stats/cycle exp.

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    you should think of adding nolva or tore along with the clomid and run that 2 weeks longer than the clomid for your pct. Clomid does a good job initiating LH release but can lead to LHRH insensitivity, and nolva/tore lead to increased LHRH sensitivity which is better in the long run and it will prevent any possible rebound that the clomid can cause

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    you should think of adding nolva or tore along with the clomid and run that 2 weeks longer than the clomid for your pct. Clomid does a good job initiating LH release but can lead to LHRH insensitivity, and nolva/tore lead to increased LHRH sensitivity which is better in the long run and it will prevent any possible rebound that the clomid can cause
    3 SERMs is overkill.

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    ^ right i said nolva or tore with the clomid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    ^ right i said nolva or tore with the clomid
    You did, excuse me.

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    I can make the prop mg higher if you think I should.

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    What about doing 60mg ED for 10 weeks?>

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