First cycle - intro - info

**GoHard87** · 10-25-2011, 05:49 AM

Hi all,

First of just want to introduce myself, im 24, 190cm, 86kg and ive been training for about 2 years now.

Now, its been a while now since ive wanted to go on my first cycle but ive been trying to get as much info as i can on the type of AAS and side effects, but after a little bit of research on this forum i have found already more helpful then what ive learned in the past 2 years.

I have now for the past year (i believe) got my diet right and got my training right. but feel like i need to know more about AAS.

what i've got planned in my head is:

a 13 week test e (500mg/week)
a 4 week dbol (30mg)

Does this cycle sound alright to all you experienced guys?
with the right training and right diet with this cycle what sort of gains am i approx. looking at?
and what sort of side effects am i looking at?

Now i read a post on here, where after the cycle your dick doesn't work properly? its late at night here in Australia so im not sure if i read that correctly, if so, why is that? because I've herd while your on the cycle your sex drive is actually higher then usual, so i would think after the cycle it would all be working normally?

Also another post i read on here, that you experienced guys do not recommend AAS to people under 25, can i ask why? if the person (under 25) has been going to gym for years, why do use not recommend?

Thanking you inadvance

**GoHard87** · 10-25-2011, 05:56 AM

ok so i just read that for a first timer its better to use just 1 AAS instead of 2 so i can see how my body reacts to that 1.
So what do you all think test e or d bol? and why?
a guy at gym reackons just d bol is enough for now, what do use reckon?
thanks

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2011, 06:06 AM

Welcome to the board GH
Here's what I'd recommend for a first cycle. 500mg test (either cypionate or enthanate) every week for 12 weeks. Nothing else. Get to know how testerone impacts your body, and become familar with it. Subsequent cycles, if you so choose to do them, you can add an unknown compound. My philosophy is to never take two compounds you have never taken before, at the same time. That way, if something goes sideways on you and you get a reaction, then you will know it is the compound recently added and not the test that you already know about. If you take two new compounds at the same time, and you get a reaction, how will you know which one it is giving you the problems?

Next, learn all about Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) by going here and reading... http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...CYCLE-THERAPY)

PCT is important after your cycle because it restores your bodies hormonal system back to the point (hopefully) it was before your cycle.

Finally, you ask about youngsters taking AAS under the age of 25. We recommend against. This is because until around this age, your bodies hormonal system is still developing, and needs to develop naturally, without adding outside testosterone (or other aas). However, the 25 is just a rough estimate, and some develop earlier, some later. The number of years lifting weights has no impact on when your hormonal system will be fully developed. Even though we recommend against, until 25, This is something you will have to decide on your own. There are risks of taking aas at any age, you just have more to consider until your system is fully developed.

Remember, knowledge is the key. What ever you decide, just make sure you make that decision with all the information available.

Good luck!
---Roman

**GoHard87** · 10-25-2011, 06:17 AM

Roman, thanks for the great info. it is much appreciated, and yeah for sure will be doing extensive research on the topic.
thanks again

**Flier** · 10-25-2011, 07:14 AM

x 2 Roman +

Originally Posted by GoHard87

Hi all,

First of just want to introduce myself, im 24, 190cm, 86kg and ive been training for about 2 years now.

Now, its been a while now since ive wanted to go on my first cycle but ive been trying to get as much info as i can on the type of AAS and side effectsWhat is your BF(body fat)? With a lower BF you greatly reduce your risk of sides. Using an AI with your cycle you also reduce your risk of (Estrogen) sides, but after a little bit of research on this forum i have found already more helpful then what ive learned in the past 2 years.

I have now for the past year (i believe) got my diet right and got my training right. but feel like i need to know more about AAS.

what i've got planned in my head is:

a 13 week test e (500mg/week)
a 4 week dbol (30mg)
Consider adding HCG and an AI to your cycle.
Personally, I felt I stopped reeking the benefits of the Test after 10 weeks....but we might be different
Does this cycle sound alright to all you experienced guys?
with the right training and right diet with this cycle what sort of gains am i approx. looking at? 10-15 kg
and what sort of side effects am i looking at?A range of side effects, or none. Impossible to predict

Now i read a post on here, where after the cycle your dick doesn't work properly? its late at night here in Australia so im not sure if i read that correctly, if so, why is that? because I've herd while your on the cycle your sex drive is actually higher then usual, so i would think after the cycle it would all be working normally? Your pecker might be more aggressive due to higher Test, or malfunctioning due to higher Estrogen. You might keep it alive with an AI, or you might kill it with an AI due to too low Estradiol. Impossible to say, we all react differently. You may be one of the unlucky who experience lasting neurological damage, or you may suffer permanent partial or full ED, or you may be like the majority and make a full recovery.
You need to do your own risk assessment.
To maximize the chances for a successful cycle and full recovery,
Lower your dosage 300-400mgs/week, (I have made great gains with Testogel alone, raising my Test from 500 to 800. With 400mgs E/week you will be close to 2000)
Shorten the cycle to 10 weeks,
Use HCG,
Use a low dose AI,
Do a proper PCT,
Keep a strict diet.

Also another post i read on here, that you experienced guys do not recommend AAS to people under 25, can i ask why? if the person (under 25) has been going to gym for years, why do use not recommend?

Thanking you inadvance

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2011, 09:06 AM

^agree Flier. Thx
---Roman

**GoHard87** · 10-25-2011, 02:49 PM

ok cool thanks guys, to be honest with you im not really sure what my body fat percentage is could be around maybe 10 - 15%..
so a couple of other noob questions, HCG - i clicked on the HCG link to read more on it but didnt really understand it to well, what does it do?
what is and what does A1 do?

**bjohnson1968** · 10-25-2011, 03:40 PM

to put it in a way you may understand the primary use of HCG is to help in combating testicular atrophy (nut shrinkage)

An AI is used to keep your estrogen level in check (lower estrogen)

IMHO...I would start researching all the previous links posted by Times Roman...also try reviewing previous threads about HCG and its use along with AI's PCT etc.

Come back back with any questions you may have

Good Luck

Peace

**GoHard87** · 10-25-2011, 05:46 PM

Once again thanks for the info guys.. i will be doing alot of research on here roaming around reading, when i feel i have understood everything ill let use kno and go for the first cycle lol.
rhanks