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    Sustanon 500 (250x2) -- looking for some pro advice

    Hello all,

    I'll make a quick and short summary...
    I have kept delaying my circle (for over a year now), found out that I got hiatus hernia, which was the main problem but its under control now.

    Quick Stats:
    Age: 26.5
    Weight: 70Kg (+/- 1Kg)
    Height: 5'8" (feels like i shrink for some unknown reasons)
    Body Fat: 12% (+/- 1%)
    Years of Training: ~11 years (on and off but serious for the past 2.5 years - and by off i mean a few months)
    Occupation: University Student

    Diet: each meal is within 2 hours apart, maximum 3 hours
    Meal #1
    - 5 large eggs (3 whole, 2 whites)
    - ~220g mashed sweet potatoes (mixed with 250ml spring water)
    - 125g 0% fat fruit yogurt
    - apple or banana
    - 1 cup of spring water

    Meal #2
    - ~220-250g chicken breast
    - ~220g mashed sweet potatoes (mixed with 250ml spring water)
    - 125g 0% fat fruit yogurt
    - apple or banana
    - 1 cucumber
    - 1 cup of spring water

    Meal #3
    - 200g can of white tuna mixed with vegetable oil (140g drained)
    - ~220g mashed sweet potatoes (mixed with 250ml spring water)
    - 125g 0% fat fruit yogurt
    - apple or banana
    - 1 cucumber
    - 1 cup of spring water

    Meal #4
    - ~220-250g chicken breast
    - ~220g mashed sweet potatoes (mixed with 250ml spring water)
    - 125g 0% fat fruit yogurt
    - apple or banana
    - 1 cucumber
    - 1 cup of spring water

    Meal #5
    - ~200g plain natural yogurt
    - ~350g white rice
    - 1 cup of spring water

    Meal #6 (out of order - ran out of casein at the moment)
    - 60g casein
    - 2 large tablespoon of chunky peanut butter

    *Note* more meals, and food consumption will increase as cycling starts.


    Workout:
    - 3x a week
    --- Monday: chest & triceps
    --- Wednesday: shoulder & back
    --- Friday: legs & biceps
    - everyday abs for 30mins


    Ok, so now the more interesting stuff... so basically I want to start officially the cycle at the end of november (another month delayed).
    Goal: To maximize muscle gain as much as possible in the bulking cycle. (+15Kg would be great)
    Gears: I already have in hand 20 sustanon ampules, 250mg each. So, 500mg per week for 10 weeks straight.

    No PCT planned: Here in Asia/Africa, PCT is little to unknown. Many might disagree with me, but however, I've known many bodybuilders that have been cycling for over 10 years that are in perfect shape and health. Either way, I'm planning on having a gyno surgery later on, since it looks like i got some puberty gyno.

    Questions:
    1) Injection Points: refer to the picture for the points

    Week 1 - Deltoids (points #5 in pic)
    Week 2 - Biceps (points #2 in pic)
    Week 3 - Lats (points #7 in pic)

    Week 4 - Deltoids (points #5 in pic)
    Week 5 - Biceps (points #2 in pic)
    Week 6 - Lats (points #7 in pic)

    Week 7 - Deltoids (points #5 in pic)
    Week 8 - Biceps (points #2 in pic)
    Week 9 - Lats (points #7 in pic)

    Week 10 - Biceps (points #2 in pic)

    So, the question 1 is, are the injection points proportionally balanced as I'm trying to increase my upper body level specially in the arms area?

    2) Shots method:
    Would method should I do that will allow me to maximum mass?
    - once a week (250x2 same day; left and right side together)
    - twice a week (250x2; left and right side on different days)
    - EOD (125x4, every other day take half the ampule, alternating left and right side)

    3) Best time for shots:
    When would it be preferable to take the shots that will allow me to maximum mass?
    - on rest days?
    - pre-workout?
    - post-workout?

    4) Is running 1-2Km outside everyday worth doing on a bulking cycle? (extra cardio to lower the fat)

    5) What supplements would be recommend to take with sustanon?

    6) Is there anything I should consider or keep in mind?


    I hope the info given is sufficient for some professional critique
    thanks for you time
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    I know near the end you mentioned no PCT. I think its a real bad idea.
    I promise you it will catch up with you eventually.

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    I wish you were kidding. I think you need to hold off on that cycle and do alot more reading and learning. Read and learn about post cycle therapy before you even make the first pin. Break down your questions about pin locations. Pinning in certain areas does not increase the size of that particular spot my friend. I may be wrong, but you dont have enough mass to SAFELY pin all of the areas you listed. Stick to your glutes and delts. I know you said some people in your area dont come off so there is no need to post cycle. Is that your plan...to stay on? If not you will feel like sh#t when you crash after the "stuff" wares off. Why dont you also use the search tool to research sust. You could spend a month on here just reading and learning while you wait to prepare for this.

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    Hi,
    In my area, +95% of the people in the gym uses steroids (the only reason its not fully 100% cause of the female members), and the reason why? Its part of the culture, which steroid has been adapted with your workout routine. Sadly, nearly half of that % are youngsters between 19-22 years old. Now, from that 95%, what is the % that knows what PCT is? The answer is near the 0% borderline. The funny thing is, you can actually buy any shots in the gym.

    I actually asked a few times for PCT, and nobody knows what I'm talking about. I even went to a pharmacy to buy some and got denied with "What the hell are you doing? This is dangerous for your health. Do you even have any ideas what you're doing? Go talk to a doctor!".

    Chris J as you can clearly see, I've been on this forum longer than 95% of the current active users. Read all kind of posts even random ones.

    If I'm part of society that uses steroid without PCT, what real option does that give me?

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    I have a buddy that came off with no PCT and went to the Dr. and told the Dr. what he had done and the Dr. gave him PCT. This wasnt in Canada but maybe thats a option since you cant seem to find it elswhere? PCT is important and its dangerous to cycle without it. End of story. You are trying to justify not using it because you cant find it and the bottom line is that you are gambling with your body and thats your decision but everyone here is going to tell you the same thing. Why? Because its the truth.

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    Might explain the big baby boom over there?

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    Current location isn't Canada, i was referring to Africa, Middle-East and Southern Asia.

    Bigjerdog yes I will do that, as that seems the best and easiest way to do near the end of the cycle.

    However, I was looking forward for some advice on those six questions...

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    I hear ya Top dogg However It would be irresponsible of Bros to give you advice on some of those questions with the PCT issue glaring everyone in the face... Therefore I skipped to #6 which stated are there any issues you should keep in mind? Also ALL of the answers to those questions are here on the board if you spend a little time researching. Sorry I guess I sound like a dick...
    Look at it this way... Its like when the kid comes to pick your daughter for the prom and he has a roll of condoms hanging out of his back pocket. Are you gonna tell him which hotel to take her to? LOL

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    Nah, most likely he'll get shot. Nice random example though.

    I wasted a few hours writing the original post... I was expected a bit more in return.


    The steroid cycles don't change, but the PCT has changed from the past 5-10 years.

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    Pct is important.. If you can't find it locally, try finding research chems
    If you're set on not doing a pct, which isn't recommended, atleast take hcg throughout cycle to minimize shutdown

    Pinning schedule: 2x a week is normal, split 3.5 days apart. 4 times wouldn't hurt and would stabilize levels a little more but isn't necessary

    locations: sust is not site specific. I prefer quads n glutes. Minimal pain, less soreness, good absortion.

    Timing: I do post workout for convenience, and don't shoot the muscle the day before you work it

    Diet sounds solid as far as food choices, calculating macros would help.

    Running ed isn't necessary while bulking as long as you keep bodyfat in check.
    Last edited by jasc; 10-27-2011 at 07:25 AM.

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