First cycle, Test E, Deca + maybe Tren? + Arimadex/letro questions... :)

[Crazyltn187]

Hey im 25, been training on and off since i was about 18 and decided to finally hit the gear. I have started with test enanthate (2x 0.75ml) + deca (2x 0.5) per week. Im approximately 79kgs, probably around 15-20% body fat.

So Mondays = 0.75mil of test e and 0.5mil of deca and again on thursdays

ps. i also started on prop for the first 3 weeks to kickstart the cycle every second day but just finished that now.

I was wondering if this is alright or if i should just be doing 1 mil of enanthate twice a week?

So far this is my third week on it and im starting to feel the strength already... I was planing n cycling for 8 weeks on, 2 weeks off (Ronnies reload/deload) and then back on for another 4 weeks? I didnt want to be on it for longer than 12 weeks so instead of going for another 8 weeks on it i was planning on stopping after the the 4. So basically... 8 weeks reload, 2 week deload (no injections), followed by a further 4 weeks on.

I also wanted to cut up a bit towards the end of my cycle and was thinking of hitting tren for the last few 4 weeks of my cycle? I wanted to know if this is a good idea? and if so how much would you recommend...

Lastly... ive always had a gyno problem, more evident on one side than the other and didnt want to make it worse so i was thiking of using letro/Arimadex throughout my cycle... I can get my hands on Letro (2.5mg x 30) or Arimadex (1mg x 30). However they both cost over double of what liquid arimadex costs, which is a bit expensive...

Considering my gyno problem i was wondering what you all would recommend to be the best? I have read a lot of articles about it, and most recommend letro as it can reverse it sometimes. However i can also get liquid Arimidex (1mg/ml 30mls) for less than of what the other one costs (from the same place) so i was leaning towards this...

However im trying to figure out if its worth forking out so much for the letro or should i just get the liquid arimadex, and if so whats the difference? ie. between liquid and tablets?

Thanks in advance for the help

[xelnaga]

Please clarity mgs you are taking. ML doesnt tell use anything.

[Crazyltn187]

My bad, the deca 200mg, and test E 250mg...

[Crazyltn]

bump!

[redz]

Thats quite the range you laid out for bf% if you are 20% your chances of side effects are much higher especially if you have pre-existing gyno. Definitely forget the Tren in this cycle too you already are using more compounds than you need for a first cycle. Do you have a pct planned out?

[gixxerboy1]

way to much and to many chemicals for the first cycle.
Just run test only at 500mg a week. There is no reason you need all that other stuff to grow.
2nd you dont need tren to cut. Cutting or bulking is more diet then chemicals.
there is no price discussion so edit out your post.
And if you have gyno issue it going to make it worse that you are running all different types of gear.

[Crazyltn187]

Yeh fair enough, i guess ill just skip the tren for now and just stick to the deca and enanthate (only because ive already purchased them)... for PCT i was thinking of a-dex at 0.25mg ed, and nolva 10mg ed throughout (or maybe start halfway through cycle) and for PCT add some HCG's, clomid and nolva...

I think i might just cut it short and stick to a 8 week cycle and see how i go..

[sir.solidarity]

I don't like how I see the words "first cycle" and "tren" in the same subject line.
Don't be an idiot, please start smaller, you're just screwing yourself long term by doing that much.

[Nooomoto]

I don't like how I see the words "first cycle" and "tren" in the same subject line.
Don't be an idiot, please start smaller, you're just screwing yourself long term by doing that much.

Its all the rage. Been a lot of posts about first timers wanting to use tren, a lot of them are teens. Disturbing.

[xelnaga]

Its all the rage. Been a lot of posts about first timers wanting to use tren, a lot of them are teens. Disturbing.

Tren is truly a different beast. Talk about mind altering substances.

[Crazyltn187]

Haha fair enough i've heard good stories about it when trying to cutbut then again there are also worse side effects or so i hear... definitely leave it out for my first cycle then

[BG]

Haha fair enough i've heard good stories about it when trying to cutbut then again there are also worse side effects or so i hear... definitely leave it out for my first cycle then

There you go, no rush. You want to cut, lose BF? Man up get your diet and cardio going. As far as first cycle, start basic. Run some test, see if you have sides from that. If you run test/tren, get gyno you wont know if its estrogen related or progesterone. the its a wild goose chase, you'll start taking tons of ai and serms, it gets out of control. 1 compound for first cycle then the second you can add a second. keep your dosage moderate....less is more.