Introductory To Anabolic Cycles

[skinnywhiteboi]

Hey guys, I was wondering if i could get some insight on anabolic steroids. Ive done my research and waited. For the past two years i have been constantly updating my workout plan and nutrition plan until it was solid and ive begun to see gains, very small and slow gains, but gains none the less. However, it has taken 2 years to see even the slightest change in my muscularity. Despite all this work and high intenisty training and proper recovery i have barely changed. Im tired of training day after day and basically no reward. and i dont train like an amateur, i make sure i feel a pump and a burn and leave the gym aching and sore. Ive taken a deeper look into my genetics and every generation in my family has the ectomorph build which is tall and skinny. However I have made my mind and dedicated myself to becoming very fit. No matter what i eat and how much i train theres barely any reward and im now considering a anabolic cycle. please dont hate, but some tips or cycle advise or anything useful would be greatly appreciated.

[DanB]

post stats diet with macros and workouts and we will try help you see where your going wrong

[Granovich]

why do you think anything will change while using anabolic steroids ?
if you didnt have any change in 2 years then there is something wrong with your diet or workout
steroids wont do anything but hurt you

[skinnywhiteboi]

i researched roids and it helps store protein or synthesize it faster so you gain more weight exponetially faster. as part of my genetics my metabolism is very fast and i dont have to funds to increase the volume of my diet when it is already alot

[JohnnyVegas]

I am eating 10 pounds of chicken breasts, 3.5 pounds of fish, 28 eggs and seven cups of cottage cheese a week. I only eat around 1800 calories a day, so if you aren't eating more protein than me, you will need to do better if you want to grow. Adding AAS won't give you a ton of muscle if you aren't already giving your body the building blocks it needs for growth.

[bjohnson1968]

to the OP....post your stats as follows and you will surely get the help you are asking for...based on your stats members can give you much better direction

Age
Hgt
Wgt
Bf%
yrs training
Diet macros (cals,prot,carbs,fats)
work out routine

[skinnywhiteboi]

as for my diet
breakfast: 2 cups of oatmeal, 2 cups milk, 2 bananas, 1 scoop of mutant mass, 1/2 cup of blueberries, 1 cup of yogurt, 2 eggs all blened.
snack: peanuts, cashwes, almonds, pecans mixed, about 1 1/2 cup
lunch: 3 cups of rice mixed with 1 cup of assorted veggies and 1/2 chicken breast, 1 scoop of mutant mass mixed with 3 parts milk
snack: assorted nuts
dinner: 3 cups of pasta mixed with 1 cup veggies and 1 chicken breast

post meal workout: 2 eggs wisped with cup of milk and 1 scoop of mutant mass
ive had smiliar meal plans to this but ive been consistent with this one for about 5 months now, roughly get 3600 calories a day. granted there is on average 1 or 2 days i dont get this full meal plan in or i might eat some ice cream or something else evry once in awhile but its so rare

[skinnywhiteboi]

im 19
6'0
156
7.6 bf%
been training properly with consistent nutrition for id say a year and a half but i started weight lifting as an amateur 2 years ago

[bjohnson1968]

I want to see you break down the macros for what you have listed and get it to equal 3600 Wheres your protein?? 1 1/2 chicken breast and 4 eggs... post this diet in the diet section and see what they can do for you...Also your other stats are needed

Peace

[bjohnson1968]

im 19
6'0
156
7.6 bf%
been training properly with consistent nutrition for id say a year and a half but i started weight lifting as an amateur 2 years ago

You at age 19 have a lot of room to grow as I stated head on over to the diet section

[JohnnyVegas]

Thanks for posting your diet. Others will be able to give you great advice, but I can see that you are eating a massive amount of carbs and almost no protein.

Here is what I eat for comparison:

Breakfast:
Two cups egg whites and two whole eggs
1/4 cup (dry) oatmeal

Snack:
6-8 oz. chicken breast
1/8 cup almonds

Lunch:
6-8 oz. chicken breast
1/2 cup rice
Broccoli

Snack:
6-8 oz. chicken breast
1/8 cup almonds

Dinner:
8 oz. Tilapia (fish)
Asparagus
Handful of spinach with olive oil and vinegar

After workout:
Protein shake

Before bed:
Protein shake OR cup of cottage cheese
Almonds

[DanB]

1. - 7.6%b/f? how is this measured?
2. - your 19 nobody here will advise you to take any aas at that age
3. - to grow you need calorie surplus and by looking at your diet(which is terrible for bulking and looks straight out of mens health) and roughly estimating(i aint gona bother working out macros if you cant be bothered to do it either)mostly carb, little protein.your tdee is prob at least 2500 (mine is 2600 and im 5'9) find out your tdee and add 500 - 1000 AND FOLLOW 40/40/20 protein/carb/fat ratio to obtain these and you will grow . . . . simple
4. - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...gy-Expenditure
5. - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight-READ-THIS!!!
there is everything you need bro good luck

[The Bear 79]

i researched roids and it helps store protein or synthesize it faster so you gain more weight exponetially faster. as part of my genetics my metabolism is very fast and i dont have to funds to increase the volume of my diet when it is already alot

But u hav the funds 4 steroids???

[bjohnson1968]

^^x2 I wondered that as well

[skinnywhiteboi]

i dont have a great knowledge or steroids as ive tried to avoid them but a friend of mine was offering me some. i could get test250 for 120 which lasts 10 weeks. food every week for me costs 60$

[JohnnyVegas]

But u hav the funds 4 steroids???

The Bear - always good for simple insight.

OP, take the hundreds of dollars you would spend on a 12 week cycle and spend 12 weeks eating right. You will probably be amazed.

I hope you will listen to everyone here. We are telling you how to achieve your goals without unnecessarily risking your health. If you have a little faith, you will see that you can make big gains just by making some adjustments.

[skinnywhiteboi]

it was at a fitness class i took for grade 13, help a weird lookin device that took 30 sec, and it would give me some stats and one of which was my bf%

[JohnnyVegas]

i dont have a great knowledge or steroids as ive tried to avoid them but a friend of mine was offering me some. i could get test250 for 120 which lasts 10 weeks. food every week for me costs 60$

If you don't eat right, the steroids won't work well anyway.

Hopefully this helps - I get ten pounds bags of frozen chicken from Costco for $20. That chicken makes up three of my daily meals for a week. If you cannot afford some bulk frozen fish for dinner, substitute with more chicken. Get a big jug of egg whites for breakfasts. Fill in the gaps with protein shakes, but don't drink a lot of them.

Hopefully you can get this put together. It will make a huge difference.

[The Bear 79]

The Bear - always good for simple insight.

OP, take the hundreds of dollars you would spend on a 12 week cycle and spend 12 weeks eating right. You will probably be amazed.

I hope you will listen to everyone here. We are telling you how to achieve your goals without unnecessarily risking your health. If you have a little faith, you will see that you can make big gains just by making some adjustments.

It's been my experience that the small stuff is usually the root of the BIGGER problem.

[bjohnson1968]

i dont have a great knowledge or steroids as ive tried to avoid them but a friend of mine was offering me some. i could get test250 for 120 which lasts 10 weeks. food every week for me costs 60$

By your own admittance your knowledge of AAS isn't good...your age is to young...Your diet is terrible all reasons not to even remotely consider a cycle

It would be a waste of money without a proper diet and very well could be very damaging to your health at your age

I would be willing to bet if you go to the diet section have everything ready diet macros your tdee and let them tear your diet apart and help you understand how to really eat properly you will be amazed how far you can go with the lack of protein in your current diet its no wonder you haven't put on any muscle..

I know it sounds harsh to you but its the truth nobody here beating you up...really get your diet in line..eat eat and eat while your doing that stay here and research until your ready..

Peace

[skinnywhiteboi]

thank you very much for the helpful replies, ive read many magazines and checked websites and ive followed them specifically (which is why it sounds like it came straight from a health magazine becasue essentially it did)
as for calorie intake -
white rice - 320 calories per cup x 3 = 940
oatmeal - 100% whole grain - 150 calories per cup x 2 = 300
assorted nutes - 200 calories per cup x 2 = 400
eggs - 70 calories each x 4 = 320
mutant mass - 265 calories per scoop x 3 = 795
chicken breast - 180 cals per 1/2 x 3 = 540
so only 3200 on average

[skinnywhiteboi]

i know. critizism is great and its what i need. thank you very much for your helpful comments everyone and ill check out the diet section and see what they have to say, i thought the eggs and mutant mass i took and chicken was good enough:s

[JohnnyVegas]

Mostly you need to make sure that a larger percentage of your calories are from protein. They guys in the nutrition section will get you growing.