My second cycle. Test E and....

[huaw1ad]

I took one cycle a few years ago and it consisted of test E at 400 mg a week for 12 weeks plus I was taking EQ but I don't remember the mg for the EQ. I realize now I should have done just Test for my first cycle, but was thinking about doing another cycle of test E, but debating whether I should throw in EQ or deca to go along with it or stick to just test E only. I am 28, 6', and 200 pounds.

[heavenlyblessed]

What were the results of your first cycle?

[bjohnson1968]

as stated above did you get good results......If your going to add another compound scrap the EQ pick something worth while

[huaw1ad]

I got pretty good results. I put on about 12-15 pounds but it is hard for me to compare it to anything since I never did a test only cycle so I am not sure how much the EQ really did...

[huaw1ad]

I gained about 12 pounds and got pretty cut. I was pretty happy with the results but I never did a test only cycle so I don't know how much the EQ really did.

[bjohnson1968]

I gained about 12 pounds and got pretty cut. I was pretty happy with the results but I never did a test only cycle so I don't know how much the EQ really did.

EQ=nothing...you can get those results from just test

[huaw1ad]

Alright I am thinking I am gonna do a Test E only cycle. What do you think I should do for mg? 500 or 600? Do you think I should do another 12 week cycle or would it be better to do it a little longer say 14 weeks?

[MASTERMIKE 48]

Alright I am thinking I am gonna do a Test E only cycle. What do you think I should do for mg? 500 or 600? Do you think I should do another 12 week cycle or would it be better to do it a little longer say 14 weeks?

I always run a 16 week cycle and start with test enth and deca then taper off with a cutter like masteron and tren. Not sure if most would agree to run mast and tren at the same time but I like the mast effect! I would go no more than 500 per week since this is only your second cycle but if your sides are light or your taking measures to handle your gyno then step it up to 600 if you feel good!

[bjohnson1968]

test e 500mgs week 10-12 is long enough

do you have a planned pct ?

planning to use hcg any ai during cycle?

[bjohnson1968]

I always run a 16 week cycle and start with test enth and deca then taper off with a cutter like masteron and tren. Not sure if most would agree to run mast and tren at the same time but I like the mast effect! I would go no more than 500 per week since this is only your second cycle but if your sides are light or your taking measures to handle your gyno then step it up to 600 if you feel good!

I think your looking little later down the road than just a 2nd cycle IMHO

[huaw1ad]

I was looking at the novice cycles on the steroid homepage and was gonna do something similar. I am having a hard time deciding because I see so many different PCT on the forums, but I am thinking about something along these lines:

Week 1-12: Test E 500 mg
Week 1-16: Nolvadex (10 or 20 mg??)
Week 1-16: Vitamin B-12 200mg/ED
Week 15-17: clomid (not sure if I should do the tapering down like the novice cycle suggest ie. start at 100mg for 1.5 weeks then go down to 50 mg for 1.5 weeks??)

Also I am thinking about taking HCG because a lot of people suggest it but I have read conflicting things as to when to take it. Either during PCT only or all the way through the cycle....
What do you guys think? Am I missing anything here?

[im83931]

I would save the clomid and nolva for pct. I don't see any need to run it through the whole cycle.

[huaw1ad]

I think I may be prone to gyno. If I am prone to gyno should I take it all the way through?

[MASTERMIKE 48]

I was looking at the novice cycles on the steroid homepage and was gonna do something similar. I am having a hard time deciding because I see so many different PCT on the forums, but I am thinking about something along these lines:

Week 1-12: Test E 500 mg
Week 1-16: Nolvadex (10 or 20 mg??)
Week 1-16: Vitamin B-12 200mg/ED
Week 15-17: clomid (not sure if I should do the tapering down like the novice cycle suggest ie. start at 100mg for 1.5 weeks then go down to 50 mg for 1.5 weeks??)

Also I am thinking about taking HCG because a lot of people suggest it but I have read conflicting things as to when to take it. Either during PCT only or all the way through the cycle....
What do you guys think? Am I missing anything here?

Use Nolva during cycle for gyno first sign of gyno @ 20mg a day till sides go away.. usually only takes a week for me for it to stop.
start hcg 500IU 3 times per week like 5-6 weeks into your cycle when running enanthate or when the nuts start to shrink.. then hit the hcg from then on at small doses like 200IU 3 times per week to keep them down... Save the Clomid for post therapy!

[bjohnson1968]

i would save the nolva and clomid for pct

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
choose an AI (arimidex) while on cycle to control estrogen for gyno
hcg during cycle week 4 up to pct 250 ius 2 week

[MASTERMIKE 48]

i would save the nolva and clomid for pct

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
choose an AI (arimidex) while on cycle to control estrogen for gyno
hcg during cycle week 4 up to pct 250 ius 2 week

I might be a little high on the hcg iu's but more won't hurt I've heard?

[huaw1ad]

If I were to take arimidex for gyno should I take all the way through the cycle and what mg dosage?

[im83931]

Keep adex on hand, only take it if you start to get gyno. If you have to take it then continue it through out at the lowest minimum dose.

[bjohnson1968]

Keep adex on hand, only take it if you start to get gyno. If you have to take it then continue it through out at the lowest minimum dose.

he is gyno prone why wait run adex .5mgs ed

[MASTERMIKE 48]

If I were to take arimidex for gyno should I take all the way through the cycle and what mg dosage?

Have you gone to the steroid profiles and done research on Arimidex?

[im83931]

Good point. It will hinder gains but might be better than growing teets. I would run a lower dose though. I am a believer in the bare minimum.

[MASTERMIKE 48]

he is gyno prone why wait run adex .5mgs ed

I agree!

[huaw1ad]

Alright I guess I am gonna get some Arimidex and take it through out my cycle. Should I take through my PCT with nolva and clomid as well or should I stop it before I start my PCT?

[bjohnson1968]

stop b4 pct

[huaw1ad]

Alright so I am gonna stop taking the Arimidex before I start my PCT, but I am wondering if I should be taking it up until the day I start my PCT or should there be gap in time between when I stop taking the Arimidex and when I start my PCT. By the way thanks for all the info I really appreciate it.

[bjohnson1968]

you can run up to pct you can start the adex at less of a dose .5 eod or even .25 if you like see how that dose goes for you and adjust if needed