Cutting Cycle...Good, Bad or Ugly?

**meat&2veg** · 10-28-2011, 08:08 PM

Hey guys I have started my cutting cycle as I want to get cut down for the beach at Xmas...

Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 60mg ED (Taken 3 x per day @ 20mg with 2 x Liv52 every time).

Week 1 - 8 Tren Acetate @ 75mg EOD.

Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD. (Shooting Prop and Tren in same Syringe).

I will be running HCG @ 250iu's every 4 days througout cycle, ending 4 days before PCT.

I have Anastrozole on hand incase of gyno.

Also I have T3 (Liothyronine Sodium) and my pills are dosed @ 100mcg per pill so I have started taking 100mcg ED. Any advice on T3 would be welcome.

PCT I have Nolva and Clomid.

Also I am taking Vit C, Vit B... Whey Protein and a good Diet.

So any useful input would be appreciated.

Cheers.

**Bulkn** · 10-28-2011, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by meat&2veg

Hey guys I have started my cutting cycle as I want to get cut down for the beach at Xmas...

Week 1 - 8 Anavar @ 60mg ED (Taken 3 x per day @ 20mg with 2 x Liv52 every time). I would start the liv52 in week 9

Week 1 - 8 Tren Acetate @ 75mg EOD.

Week 1 - 8 Test Prop @ 100mg EOD. (Shooting Prop and Tren in same Syringe).

I will be running HCG @ 250iu's every 4 days througout cycle, ending 4 days before PCT.

I have Anastrozole on hand incase of gyno.

Also I have T3 (Liothyronine Sodium) and my pills are dosed @ 100mcg per pill so I have started taking 100mcg ED. Any advice on T3 would be welcome. It depends on the person but i would not go over 50 coz your gonna risk losing some lean mass

PCT I have Nolva and Clomid.

Also I am taking Vit C, Vit B... Whey Protein and a good Diet.

So any useful input would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Other than that looks good to me!

**meat&2veg** · 10-29-2011, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Bulkn

Other than that looks good to me!

Thank you Bulkn for taking time out to give this a look over.

With the T3 I will try and take just half but the pills are so small @ 100mcg's, but I will just have to try a bite them in half. So should I stay on 50mcg ED for whole cycle (8 weeks)?

And how long after my last pin should I wait to start my PCT? Cos I know that it is less time to wait than if running Test E.

Thanks again.

**sizzlechest** · 10-29-2011, 12:06 AM

I like !!!

**marcus300** · 10-29-2011, 12:39 AM

I've ran very similar cycles with outstanding results, just be careful with the t3 and I agree with halfing the dose. Pct 3 days after last shot.

**meat&2veg** · 10-29-2011, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I've ran very similar cycles with outstanding results, just be careful with the t3 and I agree with halfing the dose. Pct 3 days after last shot.

Great to know, I am really looking forwards to seeing how much I can cut up and how much BF% I can shred. Will follow your advice guys on T3 and I thougt it was around 2 or 3 days to start PCT...So 3 days it is.

Many thanks.

**meat&2veg** · 10-31-2011, 03:52 AM

I started this cycle last Monday and was wondering how long it would take to feel the compounds kick in?

How long on the Anavar ? I read 2 weeks?

How long on the Test Prop and Tren ?

**meat&2veg** · 11-01-2011, 03:39 AM

Bump

**matty_m** · 11-01-2011, 11:34 PM

From my experience I can only speak for anavar and prop.
Towards the end of week 2 you will feel anavar kick in and be on an immense pump (in terms of hardness all the time - in/out of the gym) - its the effect of increased bloodflow, you're able to contract harder & it feels like your on a preworkout.

Towards the end of week 2 the prop should kick in - I experienced a huge increase in strength which I could see through my main lifts - dealifts and bench skyrocketed.

Goodluck!

**meat&2veg** · 11-02-2011, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by matty_m

From my experience I can only speak for anavar and prop.
Towards the end of week 2 you will feel anavar kick in and be on an immense pump (in terms of hardness all the time - in/out of the gym) - its the effect of increased bloodflow, you're able to contract harder & it feels like your on a preworkout.

Towards the end of week 2 the prop should kick in - I experienced a huge increase in strength which I could see through my main lifts - dealifts and bench skyrocketed.

Goodluck!

Cheers Matty,

I was looking online and from what most people have said, it seems 2 weeks going into week 3 is when I should feel the Var...And also the Prop & Tren so I will wait and see.

I started the Var last Monday and the Prop & Tren on the Thursday... But just today in the gym I did some cardio and while on the tread mill my calfs got pumped it hurt to carry on running so I had to settle with a brisk walk!

So maybe I am on my way...

Cheers!

**matty_m** · 11-02-2011, 07:40 AM

Also try get a hold of some taurine to help with the muscle cramps if you get "too much of a pump" and strain yourself haha

**gixxerboy1** · 11-02-2011, 08:01 AM

I usually start getting the sides from tren the 2nd week

Agree with everyone else on the t3 also

**meat&2veg** · 11-03-2011, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by matty_m

Also try get a hold of some taurine to help with the muscle cramps if you get "too much of a pump" and strain yourself haha

OK sweet... Is that in Red Bull? Would you buy it from a Pharmacy?

Cheers.

**meat&2veg** · 11-03-2011, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

I usually start getting the sides from tren the 2nd week

Agree with everyone else on the t3 also

Just 1 week in Today for me on the Prop & Tren so will see how bad I get sides in the next 2 weeks...Hope I dont get them to bad, have trouble sleeping as it is! lol

**meat&2veg** · 11-05-2011, 10:10 PM

Have deleted the name of lab my gear is from...

Just always have that doubt in back of your mind that its fake...Especialy with the Var! I know the guy who owns the pharmacy, he is a friend of a friend and they have know each other for many years now so I think he would be straight with me cos he has oter brands of gear from other labs and still advised me that this lab I have brought is good...

**dec11** · 11-05-2011, 10:23 PM

you cant post lab names mate

2wks for those to kick in, at 3wks, hold on!!

**meat&2veg** · 11-05-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

you cant post lab names mate

2wks for those to kick in, at 3wks, hold on!!

Hey Dec, I deleted that last post...Cheers.

Tomorrow will be 2 weeks of being on the Var and I just dont see any changes... I hear that people get really pumped all the time, just rock hard and have spider web veins on chest...

I feel high, like my mood is well happy, just buzzing man but dont know if that is the start of the Var?

**meat&2veg** · 11-05-2011, 11:52 PM

I just had my shot of Tren & Prop... I pinned in my quad as I always do and I did asperate only to have air come into syringe.

Straight after I pulled the pin out I started coughing and could not stop, my chest felt a little tight but the coughing lasted a few minutes... Anyone else had this and know why? As I do not think I went into a vein.

**DIESELPWR** · 11-06-2011, 12:00 AM

It sounds as if u hit a vein.. And as far as biting the t3 in half, why not get a pill cutter? Just a few dollars at gnc

**hankdiesel** · 11-06-2011, 07:12 AM

I've had those 100mcg tabs before. They suck for splitting but you have to. You can not start out at that dose. That is crazy. Currently I'm have 25mcg tabs and have just today worked my way up to 2 tabs a day and will stay here for the final week and then taper down. I started at 2 halfs. (12.5 x twice)

**Epic01** · 11-06-2011, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by meat&2veg

I just had my shot of Tren & Prop... I pinned in my quad as I always do and I did asperate only to have air come into syringe.

Straight after I pulled the pin out I started coughing and could not stop, my chest felt a little tight but the coughing lasted a few minutes... Anyone else had this and know why? As I do not think I went into a vein.

fina cough, it's happened to me a couple times. coughing til u can't see, eyes watering, snot dripping out of ur nose, can't breathe, good times.

**CleanCut** · 11-06-2011, 11:38 PM

Sounds like a good cycle.
Looks like you got tren cough bud. I'm on a tren/prop cycle right now, I felt the strength kick in around week 3. Tren side started pretty much beginning of week 2. Luckily they haven't been too bad for
Me, touch wood lol. Cardio had gone to shits though, can barely make it up the stairs to my apt now lol

**meat&2veg** · 11-07-2011, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by CleanCut

Sounds like a good cycle.
Looks like you got tren cough bud. I'm on a tren/prop cycle right now, I felt the strength kick in around week 3. Tren side started pretty much beginning of week 2. Luckily they haven't been too bad for
Me, touch wood lol. Cardio had gone to shits though, can barely make it up the stairs to my apt now lol

Yeah seems like it was the Tren cos I have used Deca , Sus250, Test E and Testoviron and never had a coughing attack like that or any cough come to think of it!

What is your cycle? Have you used Tren b4? So you felt it kick in about week 3...How long are you using it for (how long is your cycle)?

Cheers.

**meat&2veg** · 11-07-2011, 03:38 AM

CLEN

I am wanting to loose as much BF% as I can on this cycle so I have started using Clen today...

I took 20mcg about 12pm lunch time (about and hour / hour and half b4 I went gym).

Now I have read many ways of taking Clen and the main 3 ways are:

2 days on 2 days off.

2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

Stay on but up the dose every 3 days or so.

Please if anyone has had great results of using Clen, how did you take yours??? Would be a great help to know the best way to introduce Clen in the most affective way to my cycle.

Many thanks.

**meat&2veg** · 11-08-2011, 04:08 AM

Still looking for feedback on Clen cycle.

I have read what I can about Clen from "Steroid Profiles" on here and this seems again to be the main 2 methods:

The Most Common Clenbuterol Cycle:

For years the 2 week on/2 week off Clenbuterol cycle has been the most popular among performance enhancers largely thanks to internet message boards. This is a very effective means of supplementing with this medication for fat-burning, far more so than the bursting method discussed above. Generally speaking this type of Clenbuterol cycle is very simple and begins with a low dose normally in the 20mcg-40mcg range. The individual will increase the dose every day or two until he reaches the maximum desired dose that normally falls in the 100mcg-140mcg range and then discontinue use at the 2 week mark. At this point 2 more weeks will follow with no Clenbuterol in the system and at the end of this break use will begin again, normally at the ending dose of the last run; for example, if the first 2 weeks ended with 100mcg the next course of use will begin at 100mcg. Normally the individual will hold at this dose and continue with the 2 week on/2 week off method starting with the maximum desired dose each 2 week on period after the initial 2 week period.
Incrementing Clenbuterol Cycle:

While not as popular as the 2 week on/2 week off method the incrementing Clenbuterol cycle has been fast gaining popularity over recent years and for good reason; it makes the most sense and is by far the most efficient as well as effective. The plan is very simple; starting at a low dose, generally in the 20mcg-40mcg range the individual will increase the dose 20mcg every 2-3 weeks as needed. This method allows for Clenbuterol to be used for the full extent of the diet thereby keeping the metabolism revved up through the course of the total duration.

So anybody tried both and can tell me what works best please?

**meat&2veg** · 11-09-2011, 02:29 AM

Bump

**meat&2veg** · 11-12-2011, 12:14 AM

Still after some advice on the Clen please?

Also, this is my 1st time running Tren Ace and Although running it with Test Prop and HCG my balls have shrunk...Is this normal? I thought the Prop and HCG would take care of my balls and sex drive? I have still got wood when I want but unlike when on Test only I am not a horney sex case! I can take it or leave it (sex) but before on Test and Sus im a sex pest! lol

Anything I can do, or is this normal on Tren?

**juttsdm5** · 11-12-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by meat&2veg

Still after some advice on the Clen please?

Also, this is my 1st time running Tren Ace and Although running it with Test Prop and HCG my balls have shrunk...Is this normal? I thought the Prop and HCG would take care of my balls and sex drive? I have still got wood when I want but unlike when on Test only I am not a horney sex case! I can take it or leave it (sex) but before on Test and Sus im a sex pest! lol

Anything I can do, or is this normal on Tren?

This stuff has a different effect on everyone. Haybe you need to up or lower your doses on some thing. In regards to "Tren Cough" I seem to have better luck with Tren E. Many others have reported the same thing. I have noticed also if you mix the tren with others AAS it will lower the chance as well. I alway Dilute the entire shot with GS oil. I sterlize it and filter it too by the way. I have a sep bottle with just the grapeseed oil. Never shoot tren alone. always mix with something.

If you do start the coughing. open your fridge and breath the cold air it help a LOT. Tren cough made me stop my first run with it.

Good luck, your run looks good. remember, doesnt matter what you are taking. DIET DIET DIET, will make all the difference

**meat&2veg** · 11-12-2011, 07:25 PM

If you do start the coughing. open your fridge and breath the cold air it help a LOT. Tren cough made me stop my first run with it.

Hey, thanks for the tip! So far I have only had the "Tren cough" 1 time... I am mixing 1ml of Tren A with 2ml of Test Prop so this maybe helping from what you have put above.

I am injecting myself and so far only use quads, is this ok? I am doing injections EOD.

**juttsdm5** · 11-24-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by meat&2veg

If you do start the coughing. open your fridge and breath the cold air it help a LOT. Tren cough made me stop my first run with it.

Hey, thanks for the tip! So far I have only had the "Tren cough" 1 time... I am mixing 1ml of Tren A with 2ml of Test Prop so this maybe helping from what you have put above.

I am injecting myself and so far only use quads, is this ok? I am doing injections EOD.

I think what your doing by mixing 2CC s of Prop to 1 CC of Tren is a good idea. If the Cough does start, short breaths will also help.

I myself like hitting my quads. Its not a problem. Id try pinning your Glutes though as well bud.