Halo/turnibol/winstrol/eq/test cycle

[FONZY007]

I have done a few cycles, but want to do just 1 this coming year that will get my body where I want it to be!!

any suggestions with below stack>>

EQ 600mg / week 12 weeks

test 200-400mg / week 12 weeks

turnibol 8 weeks at 40-60 mgs a day

the last 6 weeks winstrol at 50mg a day ( winstrol gives me lower back pain not kidney pain just lower back pain what can I do to help that; water uptake to maybe 2 gallons a day?)

also thinking of taking HGH @ 4 ius a day for 12 weeks

liver protection, some nolvedex or if some one recommends something else?

I used EQ about 5 years ago without test and I was fine, but now that Im older it might be a problem libido and ed dont know rather be safe than sorry

any help or suggestions would be greatly appriciated

[10nispro]

That cycle is overkill. I don't see the need to run so many compounds. And its a long cycle for most. And that's a lousy pct.

[10nispro]

BTW what are you stats?

[sizzlechest]

I have done a few cycles, but want to do just 1 this coming year that will get my body where I want it to be!!

any suggestions with below stack>>

EQ 600mg / week 16 weeks

test 200-400mg / week 16 weeks

halo for 5 weeks at 20-40 mgs a day ( wondering about this one like side acne ) which im very prone too than again I hear yes and no on acne

turnibol 5 weeks at 40-60 mgs a day

the last 6 weeks winstrol at 50mg a day ( winstrol gives me lower back pain not kidney pain just lower back pain what can I do to help that; water uptake to maybe 2 gallons a day?)

also thinking of taking HGH @ 4 ius a day for 12 weeks

liver protection, some nolvedex or if some one recommends something else?

I used EQ about 5 years ago without test and I was fine, but now that Im older it might be a problem libido and ed dont know rather be safe than sorry

any help or suggestions would be greatly appriciated

What are you trying to achieve, cutting or bulking? If bulking keep the test at 500 mg, use tbol to start and if winny bothers you. it could slow down your progress, no need for it. The hgh for 12 weeks is a little too short but you will get some results. If that is all the hgh you can get for now, run it so it goes into you PCT.

[FONZY007]

Thanks guys I wasnt really bought on the halo was just throwing it out there. Tbol sounds good ( never used it), bulk somewhat but want to stay lean also. Too much test I start to break out with acne I cant control...

245lbs./30 yrs old/ 16% b.f. but will be having knee surgery end of December and want to start after I go back to gym around I say Febuary


So Eq/test/tbol for 16 weeks? I was thinking of about 40mgs of tbol a day and towards end cycle off?

HGH is pricey so will do run towards end

PCT just didnt post. clomid/nolva/HCG will all be on hand

[marcus300]

What is your previous cycle history?
Have you ran eq before?
I personally think 16 weeks is to long and counterproductive,
HGH needs to be ran for 6 months + at least, no point in running it towards the end.

[cro]

is that 3 orals in 1 cycle?

[redz]

Not good to do a cycle right after surgery either you are risking injury for sure.

[FONZY007]

Marcus, I have used sustenon250, deca, test E, and Eq before. My first cycle was just sustenon 250 for 8 weeks.

I can run short what are your thoughts 12 -14 weeks?


Cro, I wasnt really wanting to use Halo just asking, but Tbol and winny I was. Was going to run Tbol first and end on winny only using 1 oral at a time. But Now Im thinking of just running the tbol the whole time.

Redz, I have a torn menicus in my left knee that the doctor will be cutting out normally im up and running at 100% around 2 to 3 weeks, just want to give time and be back in gym for a while.

[FONZY007]

That cycle is overkill. I don't see the need to run so many compounds. And its a long cycle for most. And that's a lousy pct.

I have heard you have to run test with Eq is that correct?

[3863]

Marcus, I have used sustenon250, deca, test E, and Eq before. My first cycle was just sustenon 250 for 8 weeks.

I can run short what are your thoughts 12 -14 weeks?


Cro, I wasnt really wanting to use Halo just asking, but Tbol and winny I was. Was going to run Tbol first and end on winny only using 1 oral at a time. But Now Im thinking of just running the tbol the whole time.

Redz, I have a torn menicus in my left knee that the doctor will be cutting out normally im up and running at 100% around 2 to 3 weeks, just want to give time and be back in gym for a while.

You will not be "up and running in 2-3 weeks" from an injury like that. Trust me. It takes months for operations like this to fully heel. You may even need physio.

I have had quite a few injuries in my BB'ing career and one thing I have learnt is not to rush back into things. I did with a bicep injury and it put me back another 4 weeks.

[xelnaga]

After surgery focus should be on therapy period. After my shoulder surgery my instincts were to train train train like always. I had to force myself to apply the slow and steady approach. I am reaping the reward now with a shoulder that is 100%. Plus part of the fun in cycling is the wait and concentration spent on planning the next cycle.

[FONZY007]

I hav got'n 2 right knee surgeries and 1 right shoulder surgery I totally understand what you guys are saying

[ravick]

245lbs./30 yrs old/ 16% b.f. but will be having knee surgery end of December and want to start after I go back to gym around I say Febuary

Hi,
Just thought you might consider an alternative to surgery, that would enable you to keep in shape, since you wouldn't have the long recovery time.

The Arpwave at arpwave.org is in use by many professional athletes to avoid surgery, and also incidentally for training purposes, because it works so well.

Hey check it out, and best wishes.

[FONZY007]

Will be adding Aromasin at 10mg a day, but other question I have would it be wise to use hcg during cycle if so how much 500 ius twice a week?

[FONZY007]

Hi,
Just thought you might consider an alternative to surgery, that would enable you to keep in shape, since you wouldn't have the long recovery time.

The Arpwave at arpwave.org is in use by many professional athletes to avoid surgery, and also incidentally for training purposes, because it works so well.

Hey check it out, and best wishes.

Thanks ravick will look into

[ata1979]

Say goodbye to your liver (and possibly kidneys as well). The only liver protection that will protect you is a liver transplant after this cycle. Winny is probably the harshest AAS on the liver. Halo is also high up on the list. Tbol is not as harsh but its still an AA17.

[FONZY007]

I'm not going to use halo or not even winny? Did you see the revised cycle?