M1Test questions. Help Appreciated :)!

[CodyLee1337]

Hey all I'm just getting all my cycle info together going to start a cycle of M1Test I just recently obtained.

So far I'm I'm trying to follow NSA's outline and basic cycle guide he posted.

Week 1-4 : Will be doing 5g creatine daily, saw it in PCT but I don't see why not put it here as well.
Week 1-4 : M1Test 15mg ED (Might bump up to 30mg we shall see, have 60 pills at 15mg/pill)
Week 1-4 : Hawthorn Berry Extract 1500mg ED
Week 1-4 : Can't find the 4-ad anywhere having crappy luck, looking for a replacement for it so need suggestions - Found a 4-AD RD product by advanced muscle science, would love any reviews on it or knowledge if anyone has used. Thanks again
Week 1-5 : Tribulus Terrestris, Maca Root, DAA 2,250mg ED (To counter act lethargy/beneficial herb)

Considering throwing in 1000mg Milk Thistle (Was curious if could do the milk thistle/estro blocker I have listed in PCT or if I need just Milk Thistle alone) to assist in liver protection figure better safe then sorry. Opinions would be loved, I don't drink and haven't drank more then few times in my life.

PCT

Week 5-8 Looking to pick up Nolvadex 40mg ED then down to 20mg ED after two weeks. Currently have a 2 in 1 PCT that contains 100mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 300mg N-Acetyl Cysteine, 500mg Milk Thistle, 250mg Dandelion Root, 200mg SAM-e, 250mg Stinging Nettle. Curious as to the comparison of this with Nolvadex

Week 5-8 Milk Thistle 1000mg ED (Need to know if supplement listed above will be ok to take even with all the extras or if should just buy Milk thistle by itself)

Week 5-8 Clomid Therapy, I've found where to get some Clomi but I've heard this might not be necessary but once again I'd prefer to take all the proper precautions. Just would like your guy's opinions.

Would love any suggestions/ideas of what I can do to make this cycle more efficient or if possible for any good sites that can provide good PCTs (That are legal, not requesting illegal products so please no ban haha) Thanks again for the read I'll respond and check this thread promptly.

[FONZY007]

they still make M1T, I havent seen any for like 5 years!!

[venomx]

they still make M1T, I havent seen any for like 5 years!!

This +1.

What brand M1T is it ?

[CodyLee1337]

Power House Labs
Chemical compound looks correct.

17b-Hydroxy-17a-Methyl-5a-Androst-en-3-One

Any advice

[CodyLee1337]

Bump for my safety lol!

[venomx]

Bump for my safety lol!

Found it today actually and ordered me some.. as the last M1T cycle i did from the same lab was incredible... i ran it on it's own, 2 x 12mg tabs per day, some days 3 x 12mg.
Used Milk thistle and howthorne berry constantly throughout. AND ZMA/Tribulus every night to stimulate natural test production and LH ( in my opinion this is very important and could dictate how you feel throughout the day ).. and the side effects were nothing like the hell i experienced on Epistane which is suposedly a 'lighter' ph and has good reviews everywhere

Anyway I wouldn't be too concerned about the 4AD... I ran it on it's own last time and it pretty much did everything.. increased my energy, increased my appetite, got better sleep, had a crazy motivation to train twice a day, and got an increased libido. However large water intake is a MUST.. if i didn't drink enough water i'd immediately start looking bloated and have darker urine, it helps flush out toxins and is vital for your overall wellbeing. I'd also recommend not drinking alcohol whatsoever.

Definitely need a Serm for PCT though as it's testoserone, and is pretty much the most suppressive thing to take.. although it's not quite as androgenic as Test (30% of which), which is probably a good thing... as the more androgenic something is the more suppressive it is. And the testicular shrinkage i experienced was nothing compared to superdrol !

If this lab is the same as the others which sold old M1T in the UK (pharmalabs) then it will be very good, i'd start with 15mg in the morning to assess the strength of batch.. and possibly bring it up to 30mg if everything feels ok.
Personally I could feel it kick in within 30 minutes or so !

And finally, i would not bother with that creatine.. One, is extra strain on your liver. Two, it will add to bloat/water retention which is not what you want. Three, the M1T will be doing more than enough for you.

[CodyLee1337]

Awesome venomx thanks for the reply. Sounds like I'll just run it without 4ad then.
What serm did you pick up for your run of it?

[venomx]

Awesome venomx thanks for the reply. Sounds like I'll just run it without 4ad then.
What serm did you pick up for your run of it?

I used Esto suppress which i think contains tamoxifen, found it to be extremely strong however and wouldn't recommend doing any more than 20mg per day for the first few of pct as it pretty much kills estrogen and makes you feel horrible whilst on it ( it could just be that i'm sensitive to serms ), but definitely feel better and well recovered after stopping, so it's worth feeling abit crap for a few days of taking it as you'll feel back to normal right afterwards...
However this time round i've got genuine tamoxifen so going to use that, I found using it on cycle makes me feel even better and way less bloated as it obviously lowers estrogen whilst test is high.. giving a good balance, rather than having high test and high estro.