Hi im 24 and have a few cycles under my belt,
11%bf
88 kgs
I m after professional opinion about a test suspension, tren ace , and test e cycle?
Comments would be much appreaciated??
Hi im 24 and have a few cycles under my belt,
11%bf
88 kgs
I m after professional opinion about a test suspension, tren ace , and test e cycle?
Comments would be much appreaciated??
Welcome to the board mate!
I had to redo the answer, since I misunderstood the question.
It is hard to tell with compounds alone without the dose. You have two different types of test, and I'd like to hear your theory of why test susp and test e. There would really be only one reason to do this, and I want to see where your knowledge level is at.
Tren A is an advanced steroid. Unless you have been lifting for many years and have a solid foundation, i'd probably try to discourage you from taking. Plus the acetate variety has you pinning minimum every other day.
So if we could finish up your stats, that would be appreciated
Height?
Years experience lifting
Detail on cycle experience
AND what is your PCT plan?
Cheers
---Roman
Thanks mate for your reply, Im 170cm tall and have been lifitng for about 5 years after i stoped boxing so i have goten away for the high rep high cardio traning,
I was thinking of the test susp to run for the first 4 - 6 weeks to kick start the cycle until the test e kicked in? do you think that would be ok or would dbol be a better option?
i was going to run it like this -
Test e 200 / mon, thur
test susp 100 each day split into 2
tren ace 75 each day mixed witht the test susp?
I have some arimidex also was going to run .25 ed
and nolvadex for pct
40
20
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20
Thanks mate some feed back would be excellent
Welcome flair, I would lik 2 help / advise, but ur profile sez ur 23, lieing can only accomplish 2 things here bro, 1, getting u hurt & 2, causing u loss of credibility. I'm going 2 ask u how old u r, BUT...........b 4 u answer, I want u 2 take in2 consideration that there is a significantly higher risk of u doing potentially irreversible damage 2 ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA if u cycle that yung. How old r u flair?
23 or 24 who cares hes already done several cycles.
OP what exactly is your question
have you ever used suspension. its some painful stuff. I would rather use prop.
But i dont think a kick start is necessary
if you are already running tren a and doing eod injections i would run prop the entire cycle
Man i HATE suspension.. hurts SOOOO bad... so your looking to go from 700mg a week of suspension to 400mg a week of test E? Also just curious tren is USUALLY used as a cutter, dbol to kickstart a bulk... yes majority of drugs are diet dependent, but still... tren will make you look dry and vascular and dbol will make you look somewhat the opposite... what exactly are your goals?? why tren at such a young age? and just curious... at 24 you already have a few cycles under your belt? why that young did you start using? no health concerns for your future?
Ok. You got the theory right. You are trying to front load with test susp. You'll be pinning that every day since that is how long the active life is. I see you are planning on splitting that, so then twice a day works better.
You don't need to front load for 4-6 weeks with susp, though. I'd go two weeks max. here's the thing. You are front loading a helluva lot more than your weekly test e dose, almost twice as much. You could do that, but if you are JUST trying to jumpstart the cycle, I'd cut back the susp to 50mg/day to more evenly match your weekly test e dose.
Yes, you can mix susp with tren a. it can all go in the same plunger, no problem.
I'd still like to try to talk you out of your tren useage, though. The whole point of cycling, imho, is to break you out of your plateau, to get you "unstuck" so to speak, so you can get back to gaining. The trick is to get unstuck with the least amount of chemicals possible, so that down the road, you can up your cycle a bit, and break the plateau again. If you get in the habit of taking something you really don't need, then later on, when you really do need it, the amount of aas needed begins to really grow, and create significant health issues. Once you begin to over rely on aas to MAINTAIN your gains, then the moment you stop, you begin to lose your gains. This is why a solid natural foundation is crucial. So if you start tren at 23 or 24 years old, pretty soon, there won't be much else to take to break your plateau. Better to wait.
Didn't mean to come off too preachy there... just trying to drive home a point.
and finally, imho, it is better to front load with test than Dbol. test is easier on the body for one (I'm thinking liver). And with Dbol, it's easy gains, and also easy losses. A large majority of what you gain with Dbol, comes right back off when you stop. Personally, I don't see the point, although there are many that swear by it.
But this is your decision alone. All I or anyone else can do is have you look at a few things, and give you something to consider.
Good luck!
---Roman
Thanks everyone for your feedback,
THE BEAR sorry mate iam 23 and im not on here to bullshit just trying to gain some knowledge , hope no offence taken.
Thanks TIMES ROMAN for your advice i mite skip the tren and just stik to the test for this cycle and see how it goes...
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