Few Q's

[Stevencusson]

On my first cycle. I started Dbol about 10 days ago. 50mg a day. planning on 8 weeks. Im 180 29years, 11%bf. I haven't started test yet as my source can't get it yet. So my question's are as follow

Whats a first time test to use? Enthate, Propinate, or cyponate

How long can I put it off? I'm going on day 11 here.

What happens if you don's use test?

For pct I was going to use Clomid with Trib for 6 weeks.


Thanks in advance guys

[D7M]

Height?

You should've waited till you had *everything* you needed for your cycle.

If you can get test anytime soon, I would just scrap the "cycle" and start fresh once you have what you need.

[im83931]

If you don't use test our fireman might go on strike.

[marcus300]

Height?

You should've waited till you had *everything* you needed for your cycle.

If you can get test anytime soon, I would just scrap the "cycle" and start fresh once you have what you need.

Agreed ^^

You should always have the full cycle including pct before starting it,

If you can get test in the next week stop the cycle,

You need nolva and clomid for pct and you will need some hcg during the cycle and also an AI.

[The-Juice]

To build on what they were saying and give you an explanation for their responses.

Test should preferably be injected at the same time as your first dbol dose...Typically with a slow acting ester like enthanate or cyp.
Test should always be at the base of any cycle for various reasons. Not running injectable test with a fast acting oral like dbol is bad because it can harm your endocrine system even at your age, and you will likely retain more of your gains when its all said and done with.

Also work some liver cleasers in there such as milk thistle to protect your liver. Dbol is a pretty harsh oral, especially for a beginner.

[chuckt12345]

Not running injectable test with a fast acting oral like dbol is bad because it can harm your endocrine system even at your age, and you will likely retain more of your gains when its all said and done with.

how is adding test to the cycle gonna help in not harming his endocrine system? Make sure you know what your parroting before you say it.

[Stevencusson]

Thanks guys. I do have my PCT gear. I only started the Dbol cause I was told he would have the rest of the cycle in a day or 2.

He told me to drink lots of cranberry juice for my liver. Is this true?

I thought I was making good gains already. But another guy said once on test ill pack on lots of beef fast. True?

[Stevencusson]

Too add I'm 6' even. And not sure what firemen have to do with this LOL

[DIESELPWR]

Cranberry is for the kidneys I believe

[DIESELPWR]

Cranberry would be more for the kidneys I believe.. And by fireman, he means your dick lol

[Stevencusson]

Oh so whats good for liver? And that's not good! have to keep the fire men happy!

Is it true ill make good gains from the test e?

[DIESELPWR]

You will make fine gains with test e but taking the dbol without test isn't good.. For the liver you could take liv 52 and milk thistle

[Fetch]

Milk Thistle for the liver.
Most orals are bad for the liver because of their chemical structure. Dianabol is specifically engineered to survive longer in the liver, which causes the organ to work much harder than normal trying to get rid of it. The 'good gains' you have made already are most likely attributed to water retention. Dianabol is notorious for that. Many users, particularly those who do not know much about cycling and are only using DBol because it's 'easier' to swallow a pill, experience decent strength and weight gain, but lose everything within a month or two of coming off when they stop retaining water.

DBol is a great drug, and one can make sustainable gains off it alone if they are experienced in cycling/nutrition... but there are much better options. It is most commonly used as a kickstart, because it provides very quick strength gains so that you can 'feel' some results quickly while waiting for your other drugs to kick in. A standard Testosterone ester such as cypionate, propionate, or enanthate will increase the value of any cycle considerably, and should be used as a base for that reason and others. The difference in the esters is in how quickly they deliver the testosterone to your system. Prop is much quicker than enanthate or cyp, and is administered every other day or so. It usually enters your system and starts providing results much quicker as a result. Enanthate and Cypionate are released far slower, and can be injected twice a week. Some people even go once a week with these two. The downside being that it takes longer to start seeing results, and it takes longer for the drug to clear your system.

I'm in agreement that your cycle should be terminated soon if you can't get any test. In addition, you will need an AI such as Arimidex on hand in case you start seeing side effects. Also, your PCT is a little light. I'd get some nolvadex to run alongside the clomid for best results.