Thread: Short cycle options?
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11-03-2011, 08:00 PM #1Junior Member
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11-03-2011, 08:23 PM #2
What's the goal here? How about stats - age, height, weight, BF%, etc? What did the 1st cycle consist of?
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11-03-2011, 08:35 PM #3
agreed need the above info
But there is alot of different things you can take
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11-03-2011, 09:57 PM #4Junior Member
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goal is to pack on muscle. first cycle was sus250 12 wks.
24, 5'11, 85kg, BF% not sure no abs but not far off
so what are the other things I could take preferably something that's in/out of the system quickly.
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11-04-2011, 06:25 AM #5
The fact that it's your 2nd cycle aside - tren ace would be a great addition. NPP is another one you can look into. Both are 19-nor's and you need to do some extensive research before putting either one in your body.
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11-04-2011, 09:20 AM #6
i would recommend the npp over the tren
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11-04-2011, 09:52 AM #7
or
wk 1-8 dbol
wk 1-8 prop
wk 6-10 var
but if real goal is to pack on muscle i wouldnt run short cycle
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11-04-2011, 04:06 PM #8
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11-04-2011, 04:41 PM #9Junior Member
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why do i continue the var 2 weeks after the prop? does pct start wk8 or wk10?
if i can only get oral dbols & var does that change anything?
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11-04-2011, 05:43 PM #10
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11-04-2011, 06:51 PM #11Junior Member
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is 8 weeks on dbol ok for the liver?
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11-04-2011, 07:27 PM #12
You said it was for 4 wks,
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11-04-2011, 07:42 PM #14
Agreed. After running both long cycles with long esters and short cycles with short esters, I will never run a long cycle again. I can make the same gains or more in a short 6 - 8 week cycle as I can in a 12 - 14 week long ester cycle and recovery and maintaining gains is much easier. Just my $.02.
Edit: Plus, time off of cycle and PCT are much shorter so you can cycle again much sooner.
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my best ever was an 8wk with prop and tren a (not recommending you use tren OP, just highlighting a point)
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I dont like this as the OP pointed out re:PCT start time etc. Also I dont think short duration var will do much of anything aside from possibly help minimize fat gain to a very small degree. Id personally consider either an 8 week prop / 8 week low dose dball (like 5-15mgs/day) cycle. The dball has a profound effect on protein sysnthesis and i often run low dose/ longer duration dball for that very reason. The other option is an 8 week prop / 8 week var cycle. I dont like a 4 week dball / 8 week prop - i mean you dont need to kickstart a prop cyle and i dont see you soldifying any gains from 4 weeks of d ball. Dball is an easy come easy go - UNLESS u use it as i suggested above imo. Also def look up the prime before the cycle as Marcus said -it is imperative to maximize gains on this type of cycle. JMO...
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i agree, i did 20mgs dbol for 7wks once, it was the best dbol run i did, no sides and a nice strength gain to compliment the cycle. dosages of 40, 50 and 60mgs were awful and not worth the sides
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11-06-2011, 05:44 PM #21Junior Member
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ok. if gains are still coming i might up it to 10 weeks.
wk 1-10: 85mg ED test prop
wk 1-6: 20mg ED dbol
wk 6-10: var (dosage not sure yet?)
wk 2-10: HCG 250ius x2 a week
wk 1-10: aromasin 12.5mg EOD (increase to ED if needed)
nolvas 40/20/20/20/20/20
clomid 75/50/50/25/25/25 (100 first few days)
ive started carb cycling/priming as of now.
how does that look?
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11-06-2011, 05:52 PM #22Junior Member
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or if i do 8 weeks maybe 4wks dbol 4wks var?
Last edited by kller; 11-06-2011 at 06:26 PM. Reason: dbl post
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Prop and d-bol is my first suggestion. Second would be Prop/NPP 75mgs of each EOD for 8 weeks.
No need for the tren right now. Too many sides could occur and you stopping cycle early.
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