Bloating?

[trenbo100]

i am starting week three of a sustanon only cycle 750mgs a week. im already noticing strength increases. however i feel a little bloated is there any way to reduce this without using arimidex or nolva?

[gixxerboy1]

drink more water and change your diet up

[jamesz123]

i am starting week three of a sustanon only cycle 750mgs a week. im already noticing strength increases. however i feel a little bloated is there any way to reduce this without using arimidex or nolva?

All I did was reduce my carbs (especially simple carbs) and it worked.

[MuttonChop]

Those above methods work better than doing nothing, but there really is nothing much you can do about it. Without going into too much detail, the water retention works in pathways not normally affected by the usual diuretic methods. If there was a way to significantly reduce bloat, the pros would be using it right now.

You could go the Winny route to see whether that helps you out.

[marcus300]

drink more water and change your diet up

Agreed^^ something so simple yet very effective

[trenbo100]

thanks guys, i already drink 1-2 gallons a day of water i will try and drink a little more. On the carb note i have been eating alot more carbs because all the research i have done says i have to eat them to gain as much mass as possible. My two previous cycles i stuck to low carb dieting and i got strong as hell but did not gain much mass. so do you think i should ease up a little on the carbs?

[dec11]

adex wont do anything for bloat. keep sodium in check

[MuttonChop]

adex wont do anything for bloat. keep sodium in check

^Agreed. Eating so many calories, its quite easy to forget about the potential massive sodium intake. Hell, sodium even while off cycle bloats me up like a balloon.

[Gi812Many]

Yah sodium is a killer....On my splurge days, depending on what I eat....My hands and around my eyes will swell up like a ballon.

[Bonaparte]

adex wont do anything for bloat. keep sodium in check

Huh? Of course it does, since it reduces estrogen.

[jamesz123]

oh yeah - how did I forget the sodium....yp keep that low.

[MuttonChop]

Huh? Of course it does, since it reduces estrogen.

Adex will reduce future production of Estrogen. It will do nothing for the estrogen that is already present. I think the OP is asking about reducing his current bloat. Moreover he doesn't want to use Arimidex .

[dec11]

Huh? Of course it does, since it reduces estrogen.

how exactly? if i cram my face with food all day how is adex going to control the bloat from that?

i can safely tell you adex did nothing for my bloating on my last tren a run, with a super clean diet

some noobs on here think that adex will magically cure stomach bloat. i think it needs to be clearly clarified exactly how that isnt possible

[stpete]

More water, less sodium.

[dec11]

thanks guys, i already drink 1-2 gallons a day of water i will try and drink a little more. On the carb note i have been eating alot more carbs because all the research i have done says i have to eat them to gain as much mass as possible. My two previous cycles i stuck to low carb dieting and i got strong as hell but did not gain much mass. so do you think i should ease up a little on the carbs?

are you referring to stomach bloat or fluid retention

[trenbo100]

mutton is right i do not want to use arimidex and i am asking about current bloat. dec i am referring to stomach bloat it is a lot larger than it normally is. so im guessing it is bloat. it did not happen last time and i was on 1000mgs test wk and 75mg tren ed.

[dec11]

mutton is right i do not want to use arimidex and i am asking about current bloat. dec i am referring to stomach bloat it is a lot larger than it normally is. so im guessing it is bloat. it did not happen last time and i was on 1000mgs test wk and 75mg tren ed.

well, adex will not help taht mate, if you eat more often you're going to be more bloated, simple as. or you could liquidise everything, chicken shake anyone? lol

[Bonaparte]

Adex will reduce future production of Estrogen. It will do nothing for the estrogen that is already present. I think the OP is asking about reducing his current bloat. Moreover he doesn't want to use Arimidex.

Circulating E2 is only an issue for a few days. Your body will quickly metabolize or otherwise excrete it. The same goes for other free hormones.

how exactly? if i cram my face with food all day how is adex going to control the bloat from that?

i can safely tell you adex did nothing for my bloating on my last tren a run, with a super clean diet

some noobs on here think that adex will magically cure stomach bloat. i think it needs to be clearly clarified exactly how that isnt possible

You're talking about abdominal distention.
I was talking about estrogenic water retention from the test (bloat), not some gorilla belly effect from over-eating.

[dec11]

Circulating E2 is only an issue for a few days. Your body will quickly metabolize or otherwise excrete it. The same goes for other free hormones.



You're talking about abdominal distention.
I was talking about estrogenic water retention from the test (bloat), not some gorilla belly effect from over-eating.

yep mate, i always associate bloat with the abdomen, thats where the diffs in opinion where coming from. here the term 'stomach distention' is simply referred as bloat in TV ads for meds etc. if you google bloat you'll see stomach, stomach and more stomach. i would have associated other water related issues as 'edema'.

i think we need to ask posters exactly what they mean by 'bloat' in future

[PistolPete76]

A combinate of the following will help, but not fix the issue...
1. More water
2. Less sodium "eat clean"
3. Control your estrogen... add armadex, masteron or primo
4. Add more cardio

[Bonaparte]

yep mate, i always associate bloat with the abdomen, thats where the diffs in opinion where coming from. here the term 'stomach distention' is simply referred as bloat in TV ads for meds etc. if you google bloat you'll see stomach, stomach and more stomach. i would have associated other water related issues as 'edema'.

i think we need to ask posters exactly what they mean by 'bloat' in future

Agreed.
However, estrogenic water retention is different from any form of edema. Have you ever touched someone with serious edema? Because it is a completely different level of water retention, and does not share the same cause (as edema is usually caused by CHF, and never high estrogen).
While edema is usually "pitting" (where the water is almost free-floating under the skin and will leave indentations when pressed on, like memory foam), estrogen bloat basically just swells existing adipose tissue (in my experience, anyway).

[trenbo100]

will masteron or primo really work? i have access to both. how much would i run along side the sus?

[Bonaparte]

will masteron or primo really work? i have access to both. how much would i run along side the sus?

Not in your case, since we've already established that high estrogen isn't the main issue.

[trenbo100]

thanks bonaparte.

[tornado247]

Agreed.
However, estrogenic water retention is different from any form of edema. Have you ever touched someone with serious edema? Because it is a completely different level of water retention, and does not share the same cause (as edema is usually caused by CHF, and never high estrogen).
While edema is usually "pitting" (where the water is almost free-floating under the skin and will leave indentations when pressed on, like memory foam), estrogen bloat basically just swells existing adipose tissue (in my experience, anyway).

i am doing a test E 12 weeks and tren E 10cweeks cycle and have pitted edema in my legs and have really bad stomach bloat i eat clean as well, only carbs or bad food i eat is wholemeal pasta, porridge oats and sweet potato all the rest is proteins like chicken fish eggs protein flapjacks shakes fruit and vegatables. also i saw good gains in first 4 weeks from the d-bol kickstarter but seem to have lost alot of size from water and see no effects from the tren and test after 4 weeks ? also cant do cardio as it kills me ?
can anyone help me thanks

[Back In Black]

i am doing a test E 12 weeks and tren E 10cweeks cycle and have pitted edema in my legs and have really bad stomach bloat i eat clean as well, only carbs or bad food i eat is wholemeal pasta, porridge oats and sweet potato all the rest is proteins like chicken fish eggs protein flapjacks shakes fruit and vegatables. also i saw good gains in first 4 weeks from the d-bol kickstarter but seem to have lost alot of size from water and see no effects from the tren and test after 4 weeks ? also cant do cardio as it kills me ?
can anyone help me thanks

Yes.

Start your own thread instead of bumping a 3 year old one.

Thanks.