Tired and Lazy -- sleeping 12+ hours a day -- Test Enth

[Kansas City Boy]

Okay so let me explain my cycle and situation

600 mg/week of test enth (1-14wk)

600 mg/week of equipoise (1-12wk)

and 30mg/ed (1-4 wk) of dbol (Bumped up to 50mg/ed after 2nd week)


I'm currently on 9th week of cycle


At week 6 I went to my supplier to get another bottle of test enth and EQ and he was out of the vet grade test enth. So I was in a bind and scrambling to find some test enth. Found a guy and got a bottle of BD (with a green stopper) 25mL 250mg/mL. I really didn't want to switch brands but I had no choice at the time. So I started using BD's Test Enth. About 1 week later I started feeling very lethargic. I have been sleeping approximately 8-12 hours a day and am always tired after waking up. I feel really lazy and I have to drag myself to the gym

I'm not quite sure what to do here. If anyone has had similar experience with Test Enth please give me some helpful tips

[The Bear 79]

R u using an AI 2 control Estro. levels?

[Kansas City Boy]

No, I wasn't going to use anything until after the cycle. I have never had any problems in previous cycles using EQ and Test Enth. You think I should?

[The Bear 79]

No, I wasn't going to use anything until after the cycle. I have never had any problems in previous cycles using EQ and Test Enth. You think I should?

My assumption is ur Estro. is 2 hi. Hav u ever used this much Test?

[The Bear 79]

Dam man, I just noticed ur only 23, I don't spose there's any chance I could talk u in2 stopping now & running PCT?

[stpete]

Diet related...And yeah, stopping would be your best option.

[Kansas City Boy]

24yrs old in a week if that makes a difference. This is my third cycle using test enth and 2nd cycle using EQ. I have never had these sides before. What AI would you recommend for during my cycle to see if the side effects subside?? I don't want to completely ruin my cycle but I don't want to be this lethargic during my cycle

[guitario]

3rd cycle at almost 24 and 9 weeks in and everyone thinks he should stop due to his age? Am i the only one to see the futility of this?

By all means tell him to stop because the cycle seems to be doing him no more favours, but it's a bit late for the 'too young for aas' mantra.

[The Bear 79]

3rd cycle at almost 24 and 9 weeks in and everyone thinks he should stop due to his age? Am i the only one to see the futility of this?

By all means tell him to stop because the cycle seems to be doing him no more favours, but it's a bit late for the 'too young for aas' mantra.

No it's not, it's never too late to AT LEAST mak an attempt at salvaging someones health. Like cigarettes, someone smokes for 20 years without getting cancer, does that mean u shouldn't try to get them to stop, in an effort to salvage their health?

[stpete]

I was expecting to see OP's diet. I really don't care about his age and what he or anyone else does to their bodies after we tell them the consequences.
So OP, let's address that diet.

[Kansas City Boy]

Bulking diet


Been following the "Unofficial How to Bulk Diet" by LeanMeOUt & Rambo

Meal 1: Pro/Carb

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein , 1 cup oatmeal

50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



Meal 2: Pro/Fat

Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



Meal 3: Pro/Carb

Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat



Meal 4: Pro/Fat

2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat



Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat




Meal 6: PPWO

Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



Meal 7: Pro/Fat

Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



Meal 8: Before Bed

3 Scoops of Whey Protein , 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat




Approximately 3500 calories per day


Diet has been intact 99%. Few missed meals but overall 99%

[stpete]

Yeah, Diet looks good. Well, only other thing i can think of, and i've suffered from it several times, would be fatigue. Maybe a break is what you need. Not sure about your job, but if it's physically demanding, coupled w/ your workouts, all the more reason to take a break. You've been on long enough to see some nice results by now.
Whatever you decide, i hope you get it figured out.
I would however start suspecting the juice if all those are in check.
Good Luck

[Livinlean]

Im somewhat the same way. When I get 12 hours sleep I feel really lazy when I get 6-8 I feel tired. 200mg of caffeine changes that tho.

But like stpete said you may just be fatigued. What does your workout routine look like? Maybe you need more rest days...

[Loki387]

What is your day job ??

[jamesz123]

If you are injecting something and that is what is causing the tiredness after 6 hours sleep and laziness after 12 - than that is dangerous as far as I am concerned. So stop.
However I think if you are feeling lazy after 12 hours sleep than it is mental stress. If you feel tired after 6-8 hours of consistent day after day sleep - than it is physical fatigue. Of-course both mental and physical are somewhat tied together but it is important to look at them separetly.
Did something happen in your life lately that you might not have fully come to terms with (jeez I sound like a ... !!)

[dec11]

i noticed an increased sleep need when i was cycling and now that im on trt, i dont feel fully rested unless i get 10hrs. pre AAS, i could get by on 6hrs per night so i reckon there could well be a link.

its hard to pin down though, alot of variables. i wonder if there are any sound studies on it?

[Kansas City Boy]

So I found out the issue... I received some bunk testosterone ... Sigh... So, I'm starting my PCT now.. Hopefully I can make a speedy recovery and give it another go in February..


Lesson Learned: Never switch brands mid-cycle,, especially if you are trying a new source... ALWAYS BUY ALL YOUR GEAR BEFORE YOUR CYCLE... Not half now half later... Learn from me.. Cycle wasted and now I have to wait 2-3 months to get back on the saddle

[PecBounce]

That sucks brah, wonder what was in that bunk gear to make you constantly tired?

[xelnaga]

I sleep better and longer on cycle. I attribute it to increased training intensity and a need for my body to repair.

[Loki387]

So I found out the issue... I received some bunk testosterone ... Sigh... So, I'm starting my PCT now.. Hopefully I can make a speedy recovery and give it another go in February..


Lesson Learned: Never switch brands mid-cycle,, especially if you are trying a new source... ALWAYS BUY ALL YOUR GEAR BEFORE YOUR CYCLE... Not half now half later... Learn from me.. Cycle wasted and now I have to wait 2-3 months to get back on the saddle

Preparation is everything..... Thats how winners.. stay winners....

Lesson learnt thats good.

[cb714]

Do some blood work to see whats going on bro.

[Nuzzi]

i was waiting for someone to bring up the fact that you didnt get your stuff together before you started, you should always have everything you need before you even start! you never know what will happen. aside from that, next time def get some stane (aromasin ) it helps alot with energy levels and bloat. just dont do more than you need, 12.5mg ed works for alot of people.

[tony1982]

That sucks brah, wonder what was in that bunk gear to make you constantly tired?

Just the fact that he stopped taking testosterone because it was fake so he was shut down with very low testosterone as a result.

[1000_DaysAsTheLion]

plus his estro was probably high as fuuuu too.

[hsvcraig]

Just curious buddy how'd you find out it was fake? Also you said after taking it that 1 week later you felt lathargic, unless I'm wrong but I would've guessed it would've takin around 18 days for you to be lethargic which is when the proper test would of been out of your system??? Goodluck mate

[ucf465]

i noticed an increased sleep need when i was cycling and now that im on trt, i dont feel fully rested unless i get 10hrs. pre AAS, i could get by on 6hrs per night so i reckon there could well be a link.

its hard to pin down though, alot of variables. i wonder if there are any sound studies on it?

Agreed. i seem to be more lethargic in the gym as well.